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2009-10-03

Seherezada din din 1001 de Zile (...@yahoo.com, IP: 217.136.64...)
2009-10-03 16:09
din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

<<The report, submitted by acting probation officer Kenneth F. Fare, and signed by a deputy, Irwin Gold, ...
recommended that Mr. Polanski receive probation without jail time for his conviction on one count of having unlawful sex with a minor.

In a summary paragraph, the report said:
``Jail is not being recommended at the present time. The present offense appears to have been spontaneous and an exercise of poor judgement by the defendant.``
It went on to note that the victim and her parent, as well as an examining psychiatrist, recommended against jail, while a second psychiatrist described the offense as neither ``aggressive nor forceful.``

Despite Ms. Geimer`s age and her testimony that she had objected to having sex with Mr. Polanski and asked to leave Jack Nicholson`s house, where the incident occurred, the probation report concluded:
``There was some indication that circumstances were provocative, that there was some permissiveness by the mother,`` and ...
``that the victim was not only physically mature, but willing.``

The report noted all of the assertions Ms. Geimer made in her grand jury testimony, along with the list of original charges, which included rape by drugs and sodomy.
It also noted that a test ``strongly indicates semen`` on the girl&#8217;s underclothes, but that vaginal and anal slides were negative, and there was no evidence of physical trauma.>>
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/how-polanskis-probation-officer-saw-his-crime/?hp

Ion Caramache (...@aol.com, IP: 205.188.117...)
2009-10-03 17:02
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 16:09:58, Seherezada a scris:

> <<The report, submitted by acting probation officer Kenneth F. Fare,
> and signed by a deputy, Irwin Gold, ...
> recommended that Mr. Polanski receive probation without jail time for
> his conviction on one count of having unlawful sex with a minor.
>
> In a summary paragraph, the report said:
> ``Jail is not being recommended at the present time. The present
> offense appears to have been spontaneous and an exercise of poor
> judgement by the defendant.``
> It went on to note that the victim and her parent, as well as an
> examining psychiatrist, recommended against jail, while a second
> psychiatrist described the offense as neither ``aggressive nor
> forceful.``
>
> Despite Ms. Geimer`s age and her testimony that she had objected to
> having sex with Mr. Polanski and asked to leave Jack Nicholson`s
> house, where the incident occurred, the probation report concluded:
> ``There was some indication that circumstances were provocative, that
> there was some permissiveness by the mother,`` and ...
> ``that the victim was not only physically mature, but willing.``
>
> The report noted all of the assertions Ms. Geimer made in her grand
> jury testimony, along with the list of original charges, which
> included rape by drugs and sodomy.
> It also noted that a test ``strongly indicates semen`` on the
> girl&#8217;s underclothes, but that vaginal and anal slides were
> negative, and there was no evidence of physical trauma.>>
> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/how-polanskis-probation-officer-saw-his-crime/?hp
>
>
>
Chestia asta seamana cu chestia cind Bill Clinton a afirmat la tembelizor ca "I had no sex with that woman !"

Seherezada din din 1001 de Zile (...@yahoo.com, IP: 217.136.64...)
2009-10-03 17:36
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 17:02:50, Ion Caramache a scris:

> Chestia asta seamana cu chestia cind Bill Clinton a afirmat la
> tembelizor ca "I had no sex with that woman !"
==============
daca silabisesti cu atentie ... afirmatia ta e cam pe linga.

textul NU este declaratia lui Polanski ...
ci a unor ofiteri ai Justitiei, care s-au concentrat mai ales pe examinarea si probarea declaratiilor mamicii si ale fetitei ...

cotrofelnitza (...@netscape.net, IP: 12.28.68...)
2009-10-03 17:49
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 17:02:50, Ion Caramache a scris:

... O fi, da nu-l comfunda pa albagiu' ala de Clinton cu ceva ce n-a fost si nu e, un barbat, considera-l mai degraba o 'ula,
ci io-te-te la a lu' Letterman zicere, da neica, le-am 'utut da le-a sunat apa-n cap, pa nu-sh cite da cel macar doua...
Au uita forumistii cum priveste muierile americane celebritatile
si ce e aia tentatie?
Ptiu drace, tu-le-ai Doamne !...


> La 2009-10-03 16:09:58, Seherezada a scris:
>
> > <<The report, submitted by acting probation officer Kenneth F. Fare,
> > and signed by a deputy, Irwin Gold, ...
> > recommended that Mr. Polanski receive probation without jail time for
> > his conviction on one count of having unlawful sex with a minor.
> >
> > In a summary paragraph, the report said:
> > ``Jail is not being recommended at the present time. The present
> > offense appears to have been spontaneous and an exercise of poor
> > judgement by the defendant.``
> > It went on to note that the victim and her parent, as well as an
> > examining psychiatrist, recommended against jail, while a second
> > psychiatrist described the offense as neither ``aggressive nor
> > forceful.``
> >
> > Despite Ms. Geimer`s age and her testimony that she had objected to
> > having sex with Mr. Polanski and asked to leave Jack Nicholson`s
> > house, where the incident occurred, the probation report concluded:
> > ``There was some indication that circumstances were provocative, that
> > there was some permissiveness by the mother,`` and ...
> > ``that the victim was not only physically mature, but willing.``
> >
> > The report noted all of the assertions Ms. Geimer made in her grand
> > jury testimony, along with the list of original charges, which
> > included rape by drugs and sodomy.
> > It also noted that a test ``strongly indicates semen`` on the
> > girl&#8217;s underclothes, but that vaginal and anal slides were
> > negative, and there was no evidence of physical trauma.>>
> > http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/how-polanskis-probation-officer-saw-his-crime/?hp
> >
> >
> >
> Chestia asta seamana cu chestia cind Bill Clinton a afirmat la
> tembelizor ca "I had no sex with that woman !"
>
>

Ion Caramache (...@aol.com, IP: 205.188.116...)
2009-10-03 19:21
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 17:36:48, Seherezada a scris:

> La 2009-10-03 17:02:50, Ion Caramache a scris:
>
> > Chestia asta seamana cu chestia cind Bill Clinton a afirmat la
> > tembelizor ca "I had no sex with that woman !"
> ==============
> daca silabisesti cu atentie ... afirmatia ta e cam pe linga.
>
> textul NU este declaratia lui Polanski ...
> ci a unor ofiteri ai Justitiei, care s-au concentrat mai ales pe
> examinarea si probarea declaratiilor mamicii si ale fetitei ...
>
Tocmai silabisii si vazui ca chilotii Minorei semanau cu rochia patata a Monicai.
Sau Shehe, nici tu nu stii ce ie aia raport sexual?

Ion Caramache (...@aol.com, IP: 205.188.116...)
2009-10-03 19:30
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 17:49:43, cotrofelnitza a scris:

> La 2009-10-03 17:02:50, Ion Caramache a scris:
>
> ... O fi, da nu-l comfunda pa albagiu' ala de Clinton cu ceva ce n-a
> fost si nu e, un barbat, considera-l mai degraba o 'ula,
> ci io-te-te la a lu' Letterman zicere, da neica, le-am 'utut da le-a
> sunat apa-n cap, pa nu-sh cite da cel macar doua...
> Au uita forumistii cum priveste muierile americane celebritatile
> si ce e aia tentatie?
> Ptiu drace, tu-le-ai Doamne !...
>

Pai aia zic si eu "tu-le-ai dom'ne" ca nu nu zisera nimic cind le-o facu' Billache si nu vor zice nimic cind le-o facu Davidache.
Stii, iele ie muierilii demokrate, cacate care lupta dezbracate, lupta cu cracii goi ca iele vor p....ace nu razboi.
Nu uita ca sunt asa de nesatule de ale lui Billache si Davidache scule ca organizatia lor se si cheama NOW, ca restul vor zice ele HOW.

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 80.201.49...)
2009-10-03 19:38
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 19:21:35, Ion Caramache a scris:

> Tocmai silabisii si vazui ca chilotii Minorei semanau cu rochia patata
> a Monicai.
> Sau Shehe, nici tu nu stii ce ie aia raport sexual?
====================
mai silabiseste si realizeaza ca relativ la ``raport sexual`` regizorul a raspuns afirmativ ... (mai seamana cu Billache ??)

La celelalte a raspuns negativ ...

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 80.201.49...)
2009-10-03 19:44
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 19:30:38, Ion Caramache a scris:

> Pai aia zic si eu "tu-le-ai dom'ne" ca nu nu zisera nimic cind le-o
> facu' Billache si nu vor zice nimic cind le-o facu Davidache.
> Stii, iele ie muierilii demokrate, cacate care lupta dezbracate, lupta
> cu cracii goi ca iele vor p....ace nu razboi.
> Nu uita ca sunt asa de nesatule de ale lui Billache si Davidache scule
> ca organizatia lor se si cheama NOW, ca restul vor zice ele HOW.
===================
pathethicqkK ...
citind in noroiul cuvintelor tale ... precum in zatul de cafea ..., se poate talmacii ca ai mari necazuri la asternut, din lipsa de siluete feminine, fie ele republicane ori demokrachice ...

Giurgiu Crisan (...@msn.com, IP: 90.187.110...)
2009-10-03 23:52
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 17:36:48, Seherezada a scris:
> textul NU este declaratia lui Polanski ...
> ci a unor ofiteri ai Justitiei, care s-au concentrat mai ales pe
> examinarea si probarea declaratiilor mamicii si ale fetitei ...
------------------------------------
deci e clar de tot ca nu a penetrat-o. Atunci unde e violul ? Nici vaginal, nici anal,nici bucal.......pai,nu e viol.

Ion Caramache (...@aol.com, IP: 64.12.116...)
2009-10-04 06:37
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-03 19:44:52, Smekerezada a scris:

> La 2009-10-03 19:30:38, Ion Caramache a scris:
>
> > Pai aia zic si eu "tu-le-ai dom'ne" ca nu nu zisera nimic cind le-o
> > facu' Billache si nu vor zice nimic cind le-o facu Davidache.
> > Stii, iele ie muierilii demokrate, cacate care lupta dezbracate, lupta
> > cu cracii goi ca iele vor p....ace nu razboi.
> > Nu uita ca sunt asa de nesatule de ale lui Billache si Davidache scule
> > ca organizatia lor se si cheama NOW, ca restul vor zice ele HOW.
> ===================
> pathethicqkK ...
> citind in noroiul cuvintelor tale ... precum in zatul de cafea ..., se
> poate talmacii ca ai mari necazuri la asternut, din lipsa de siluete
> feminine, fie ele republicane ori demokrachice ...
>
Nici nu am nevoie de siluete feminine! Sunt foarte multumit la astenut cu nevasta-mea in carne si oase. Este cumva asta un pacat?
Dar, ca tu adusesi vorba, nu'sh de ce, da' zatzu' de la Nescafe imi zice ca te cam joci cu vibratoarele....

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 80.201.49...)
2009-10-04 12:44
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-04 06:37:11, Ion Caramache a scris:

> > La 2009-10-03 19:30:38, Ion Caramache a scris:
> >
> > > Pai aia zic si eu "tu-le-ai dom'ne" ca nu nu zisera nimic cind le-o
> > > facu' Billache si nu vor zice nimic cind le-o facu Davidache.
> > > Stii, iele ie muierilii demokrate, cacate care lupta dezbracate, lupta
> > > cu cracii goi ca iele vor p....ace nu razboi.
> > > Nu uita ca sunt asa de nesatule de ale lui Billache si Davidache scule
> > > ca organizatia lor se si cheama NOW, ca restul vor zice ele HOW.
> >
> >
> Nici nu am nevoie de siluete feminine! Sunt foarte multumit la astenut
> cu nevasta-mea in carne si oase. Este cumva asta un pacat?
> Dar, ca tu adusesi vorba, nu'sh de ce, da' zatzu' de la Nescafe imi
> zice ca te cam joci cu vibratoarele....
==========================
nu-i nici un pacat ... skirbavnik este felul in care iti permiti sa te exprimi despre femei ...,

cu aceasta apreciere cred ca ar fi de`acord si nevasta-ta ``in carne si oase``, daca cumva are silueta feminina ...

Ion Caramache (...@aol.com, IP: 205.188.116...)
2009-10-04 17:34
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...

La 2009-10-04 12:44:44, Smekerezada a scris:

> La 2009-10-04 06:37:11, Ion Caramache a scris:
>
> > > La 2009-10-03 19:30:38, Ion Caramache a scris:
> > >
> > > > Pai aia zic si eu "tu-le-ai dom'ne" ca nu nu zisera nimic cind le-o
> > > > facu' Billache si nu vor zice nimic cind le-o facu Davidache.
> > > > Stii, iele ie muierilii demokrate, cacate care lupta dezbracate, lupta
> > > > cu cracii goi ca iele vor p....ace nu razboi.
> > > > Nu uita ca sunt asa de nesatule de ale lui Billache si Davidache scule
> > > > ca organizatia lor se si cheama NOW, ca restul vor zice ele HOW.
> > >
> > >
> > Nici nu am nevoie de siluete feminine! Sunt foarte multumit la astenut
> > cu nevasta-mea in carne si oase. Este cumva asta un pacat?
> > Dar, ca tu adusesi vorba, nu'sh de ce, da' zatzu' de la Nescafe imi
> > zice ca te cam joci cu vibratoarele....
> ==========================
> nu-i nici un pacat ... skirbavnik este felul in care iti permiti sa te
> exprimi despre femei ...,
>
> cu aceasta apreciere cred ca ar fi de`acord si nevasta-ta ``in carne
> si oase``, daca cumva are silueta feminina ...
>


Vezi tu Sehe, femeilii este de doua feluri: femei gingase pe care nu ai voie sa le atingi nici macar cu o floare si feministe guriste activiste precum Gloria Steinem si alea din NOW care nu stiu HOW si fac HAU, HAU.
Astea din urma sunt niste fecale printzipiale care nu au suflat o vorba cind democratul Bill, z'artistul Polanski, recent decedatul uncle Teddy Kennedy, si recentul Davidache Scrisorache au facut ce au facut cu femeile "reprezentate" NOW. Dar imediat au tipat ca din gura de sarpe atunci cind perversii erau din tabara adversa sau, mai mult, au acuzat de perversitati si imoralitate pe toti si toate care nu erau, si nu sunt, de acord cu foameilii democrate care vor dezbracate'n cracii goi sa nu dea de razboi. Cum vrerea asta este contra naturii, atunci toate asexuatele astea sunt niste patzakine spurkate gaunoase care sunt bune numai de clei de oase.

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 80.201.49...)
2009-10-04 17:53
Re: din documentele juridice ale procesului din 1977 ...


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