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2009-08-25
Ereticul din Bucuresti (...@k.ro, IP: 86.107.240...)
2009-08-24 21:42
N-ar fi mai simplu ...

... sa se expertizeze cadavrele in discutie? Sa fie deshumate si sa se vada daca au sau nu toate organele la locul lor.

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.108.254...)
2009-08-24 23:41
Re: N-ar fi mai simplu ...

organe dupa 15-20 de ani?!

La 2009-08-24 21:42:20, Ereticul a scris:

> ... sa se expertizeze cadavrele in discutie? Sa fie deshumate si sa se
> vada daca au sau nu toate organele la locul lor.
>

MirceaS din Paris (...@netscape.net, IP: 82.226.121...)
2009-08-24 23:46
Re: N-ar fi mai simplu ...

La 2009-08-24 23:41:47, evreu mandru din israel a scris:

> organe dupa 15-20 de ani?!
>
> La 2009-08-24 21:42:20, Ereticul a scris:
>
> > ... sa se expertizeze cadavrele in discutie? Sa fie deshumate si sa se
> > vada daca au sau nu toate organele la locul lor.
> >
>
>

Arabii pot sa sustina ca este o problema religioasa, plimbarea cadavrelor este interzisa de islam.

Absenta onor organe poate sa fie determinata n unele cazuri si dupa 30 de ani.

Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2009-08-25 00:04
Re: N-ar fi mai simplu ...

La 2009-08-24 23:46:22, MirceaS a scris:

>
> Arabii pot sa sustina ca este o problema religioasa, plimbarea
> cadavrelor este interzisa de islam.
>
> Absenta onor organe poate sa fie determinata n unele cazuri si dupa
> 30 de ani.

Nicaieri in ziar nu se specifica cand anume s-au prelevat organe de la palestinieni (cazul ar putea fi foarte recent, ma gandesc la Operatiunea Plumb Intarit din 27 decembrie 2008-18 ianuarie 2009), ci doar ca "armata israeliana a fost implicata intr-un trafic cu organe prelevate de a palestinieni ucisi". Asadar, nu se cazul sa te gandesti la o perioada de 10-30 ani, ci poate chiar la anul curent.

Cat despre ziarul Aftonbladet, este considerat a fi cel mai apreciat cotidian din Suedia, in jur de 15% din populatia suedeza citindu-l regulat.

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.108.254...)
2009-08-25 00:15
Re: Ba se specifica...

in 1992...

"A Palestinian family in the West Bank told the newspaper, Aftonbladet, in an article published Sunday that the body of their 19-year-old son, killed by Israeli soldiers in 1992, was returned to them wrapped in bandages and that they found a scar running from his neck to his stomach".

La 2009-08-25 00:04:35, Evreu-rus a scris:

>
> Nicaieri in ziar nu se specifica cand anume s-au prelevat organe de la
> palestinieni (cazul ar putea fi foarte recent, ma gandesc la
> Operatiunea Plumb Intarit din 27 decembrie 2008-18 ianuarie 2009), ci
> doar ca "armata israeliana a fost implicata intr-un trafic cu organe
> prelevate de a palestinieni ucisi". Asadar, nu se cazul sa te
> gandesti la o perioada de 10-30 ani, ci poate chiar la anul curent.
>
> Cat despre ziarul Aftonbladet, este considerat a fi cel mai apreciat
> cotidian din Suedia, in jur de 15% din populatia suedeza citindu-l
> regulat.
>
>

contraevreu-rus (...@aol.com, IP: 208.104.163...)
2009-08-25 00:18
Re: N-ar fi mai simplu ...

Iar revi cu intrebari nefaste,nu e voie de degropat morti la mahomedani si nu e voie sa faci autopsi daca nu permite familia,Ghici ghicitoare daca familia ar permite dupa ce acest scandal a inceput din cauza minciunilor scrise si citate cu numele lor.



La 2009-08-24 21:42:20, Ereticul a scris:

> ... sa se expertizeze cadavrele in discutie? Sa fie deshumate si sa se
> vada daca au sau nu toate organele la locul lor.
>

Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2009-08-25 00:35
Re: Ba se specifica...

La 2009-08-25 00:15:44, evreu mandru din israel a scris:

> in 1992...
>
> "A Palestinian family in the West Bank told the newspaper,
> Aftonbladet, in an article published Sunday that the body of their
> 19-year-old son, killed by Israeli soldiers in 1992, was returned to
> them wrapped in bandages and that they found a scar running from his
> neck to his stomach".

Prima la mana, chiar si dupa 30 ani se poate constata lipsa organelor (cum a precizat dl MirceaS), a doua la mana cunosc cazuri foarte recente de prelevari de organe in care au fost implicati militari israelieni:
"AN EX-ISRAELI ARMY OFFICER, a Geldaya Gadi, was recently arrested in Brazil on suspicion of belonging to an International human kidney trafficking ring. Gadi told the court that Israel financed organ transplants in other countries due to the lack of organ donors in Israel. "The Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs for patients in its country and pays for all transactions through state funded health plans," Gady told the court.
The Israel Institute of Forensic Medicine made Scotland news not long ago in the incident of a Scottish tourist in Israel, a Mr Alastair Sinclair, who was said to have "hanged himself" in an Israeli jail. (He was arrested on false charges). The lab not only performed an autopsy on Sinclair but removed a vital organ from his corpse as lucrative "merchandise." It all came to light when the family of Sinclair found the body returned to them without a heart.

TAKING A JOB IN ISRAEL in 2002, a Ukranian man died there of poisoning by a tainted alcoholic beverage (even though all domestic sources insist that he never drank.) The body of the unfortunate worker was returned to Ukraine for burial. The body of the man came back missing its heart.

ZIONIST DOCTORS at the Israeli Forensic Institutein Tel Aviv tacitly admitted recently that they had extracted the vital organs of three Palestinian teenagers killed by the Israeli Army in 2005. Zionist Minister of Health Nessim Dahhan said in response to a question by an Arab member of the Zionist Parliament <>that he couldn't deny that organs of Arab teenagers killed by the Israeli forces were taken out for transplants for scientific research:
-"I couldn't say for sure that something like that (taking out the organs) didn't happen," said Dahhan. -
Israeli authorities normally detain the bodies of murdered Palestinians for a few days without any explanation. on December 30 2005, Palestinian newspapers reported that the Israeli Army killed three Palestinian teenagers near Khan Younis in unclear circumstances. The army issued conflicting reports on the killing while Palestinian sources charged that Israeli troops murdered the three unarmed boys in cold blood.
Shortly before the burial of the three Arab teenagers on January 6 2005, Palestinian medical authorities examined the bodies and found that their kidneys, livers, and hearts were missing from their bodies. The Israeli and Zionist-controlled media have completely ignored the scandalous affair."

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism-israel/27457-open-market-human-organs-israel-they-kill-children-sell-their-organs.html

contraevreu-rus (...@aol.com, IP: 208.104.163...)
2009-08-25 00:48
Re: Ba se specifica...

Ahmed tu ca mohamedan trebue sa sti ca nu e voie de dezgropat mortii la voi,si nici nu e voie sa se faca o autopsie fara ca familia sa permita ,tu iesti un dezaxat mintal ce se intampla daca se face o autopssie si se dovedeste ca astia au mintit,toata propaganda palestiniana revine din nou pe palmaresul minciunilor la fel ca si postarile tale,cine sa ceara acest lucru familiei tu sau antisemiti pe forum findca Israelul nu are nici un interes sa se lase judecata de mincinosi ca voi care traiesc numai din conspirati si minciuni.Oricare ar fi rezultatul voi si asa nu-l credeti ,numai daca va avantajeaza .



La 2009-08-25 00:35:10, Evreu-rus a scris:

> La 2009-08-25 00:15:44, evreu mandru din israel a scris:
>
> > in 1992...
> >
> > "A Palestinian family in the West Bank told the newspaper,
> > Aftonbladet, in an article published Sunday that the body of their
> > 19-year-old son, killed by Israeli soldiers in 1992, was returned to
> > them wrapped in bandages and that they found a scar running from his
> > neck to his stomach".
>
> Prima la mana, chiar si dupa 30 ani se poate constata lipsa organelor
> (cum a precizat dl MirceaS), a doua la mana cunosc cazuri foarte
> recente de prelevari de organe in care au fost implicati militari
> israelieni:
> "AN EX-ISRAELI ARMY OFFICER, a Geldaya Gadi, was recently arrested in
> Brazil on suspicion of belonging to an International human kidney
> trafficking ring. Gadi told the court that Israel financed organ
> transplants in other countries due to the lack of organ donors in
> Israel. "The Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs for
> patients in its country and pays for all transactions through state
> funded health plans," Gady told the court.
> The Israel Institute of Forensic Medicine made Scotland news not long
> ago in the incident of a Scottish tourist in Israel, a Mr Alastair
> Sinclair, who was said to have "hanged himself" in an Israeli jail.
> (He was arrested on false charges). The lab not only performed an
> autopsy on Sinclair but removed a vital organ from his corpse as
> lucrative "merchandise." It all came to light when the family of
> Sinclair found the body returned to them without a heart.
>
> TAKING A JOB IN ISRAEL in 2002, a Ukranian man died there of poisoning
> by a tainted alcoholic beverage (even though all domestic sources
> insist that he never drank.) The body of the unfortunate worker was
> returned to Ukraine for burial. The body of the man came back missing
> its heart.
>
> ZIONIST DOCTORS at the Israeli Forensic Institutein Tel Aviv tacitly
> admitted recently that they had extracted the vital organs of three
> Palestinian teenagers killed by the Israeli Army in 2005. Zionist
> Minister of Health Nessim Dahhan said in response to a question by an
> Arab member of the Zionist Parliament <>that he couldn't deny that
> organs of Arab teenagers killed by the Israeli forces were taken out
> for transplants for scientific research:
> -"I couldn't say for sure that something like that (taking out the
> organs) didn't happen," said Dahhan. -
> Israeli authorities normally detain the bodies of murdered
> Palestinians for a few days without any explanation. on December 30
> 2005, Palestinian newspapers reported that the Israeli Army killed
> three Palestinian teenagers near Khan Younis in unclear
> circumstances. The army issued conflicting reports on the killing
> while Palestinian sources charged that Israeli troops murdered the
> three unarmed boys in cold blood.
> Shortly before the burial of the three Arab teenagers on January 6
> 2005, Palestinian medical authorities examined the bodies and found
> that their kidneys, livers, and hearts were missing from their
> bodies. The Israeli and Zionist-controlled media have completely
> ignored the scandalous affair."
>
> http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism-israel/27457-open-market-human-organs-israel-they-kill-children-sell-their-organs.html
>
>

Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2009-08-25 01:10
Re: Ba se specifica...

La 2009-08-25 00:48:12, contraevreu-rus a scris:

> Ahmed tu ca mohamedan trebue sa sti ca nu e voie de dezgropat mortii
> la voi,si nici nu e voie sa se faca o autopsie fara ca familia sa
> permita ,tu iesti un dezaxat mintal ce se intampla daca se face o
> autopssie si se dovedeste ca astia au mintit

Pune intotdeauna raul in fata. Daca, in urma unei autopsii, se va dovedi ca suedezii au avut dreptate? Ce vei face atunci? Iti vei cere scuze de la toti forumistii care s-au aflat in situatia neplacuta de a-ti inghiti toate jignirile absolut mizerabile cu care i-ai taxat pe tot parcursul neplacutei dumitale prezente pe acest forum?

contraevreu-rus (...@aol.com, IP: 208.104.163...)
2009-08-25 01:18
Re: Ba se specifica...

Daca asa este da ,dar tu nu raspunzi la faptul ca acest lucru nu e posibil,repet din nou ca unui copil bolnav ce iesti,la voi la mahomedani nu exista autopsi si nu se dezgroapa morti mai ales cand familia stie ca au mintit,de ce nu striga palestinieni de 3 zile de cand acesta minciuna a aparut absolut nimic ,tu ce crezi ca tacerea nu e o acceptare a culpabilitati,au absolut toata presa araba,radio ,televizor sa dovedeasca adevarul sau minciuna.



La 2009-08-25 01:10:37, Evreu-rus a scris:

> La 2009-08-25 00:48:12, contraevreu-rus a scris:
>
> > Ahmed tu ca mohamedan trebue sa sti ca nu e voie de dezgropat mortii
> > la voi,si nici nu e voie sa se faca o autopsie fara ca familia sa
> > permita ,tu iesti un dezaxat mintal ce se intampla daca se face o
> > autopssie si se dovedeste ca astia au mintit
>
> Pune intotdeauna raul in fata. Daca, in urma unei autopsii, se va
> dovedi ca suedezii au avut dreptate? Ce vei face atunci? Iti vei
> cere scuze de la toti forumistii care s-au aflat in situatia
> neplacuta de a-ti inghiti toate jignirile absolut mizerabile cu care
> i-ai taxat pe tot parcursul neplacutei dumitale prezente pe acest
> forum?
>

Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2009-08-25 01:35
Re: Ba se specifica...

La 2009-08-25 01:18:13, contraevreu-rus a scris:

> Daca asa este da ,dar tu nu raspunzi la faptul ca acest lucru nu e
> posibil,repet din nou ca unui copil bolnav ce iesti,la voi la
> mahomedani nu exista autopsi si nu se dezgroapa morti mai ales cand
> familia stie ca au mintit,de ce nu striga palestinieni de 3 zile de
> cand acesta minciuna a aparut absolut nimic ,tu ce crezi ca tacerea
> nu e o acceptare a culpabilitati,au absolut toata presa araba,radio
> ,televizor sa dovedeasca adevarul sau minciuna.

Va este tare frica. Daca familia isi va da acordul, in urmatoarele zile, in privinta deshumarii, se va demonstra ca voi ati fost cei care au mintit si veti fi trasi la raspundere ptr faptele voastre reprobabile. In cazul contrar, in care familia va refuza, atunci exista 3 posibilitati: 1) cotidianul sa aduca acuze nefondate, chiar fara stirea si acordul familiei palestinianului, iar voi veti fi absolviti de orice raspundere, 2) familia sa nu doreasca dezgroparea cadavrului, din motive strict religioase, si atunci vei fi ramane in continuare suspectati.

Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2009-08-25 01:37
Re: Ba se specifica...Rectificare!

La 2009-08-25 01:35:27, Evreu-rus a scris:

> La 2009-08-25 01:18:13, contraevreu-rus a scris:
>
> > Daca asa este da ,dar tu nu raspunzi la faptul ca acest lucru nu e
> > posibil,repet din nou ca unui copil bolnav ce iesti,la voi la
> > mahomedani nu exista autopsi si nu se dezgroapa morti mai ales cand
> > familia stie ca au mintit,de ce nu striga palestinieni de 3 zile de
> > cand acesta minciuna a aparut absolut nimic ,tu ce crezi ca tacerea
> > nu e o acceptare a culpabilitati,au absolut toata presa araba,radio
> > ,televizor sa dovedeasca adevarul sau minciuna.
>
> Va este tare frica. Daca familia isi va da acordul, in urmatoarele
> zile, in privinta deshumarii, se va demonstra ca voi ati fost cei
> care au mintit si veti fi trasi la raspundere ptr faptele voastre
> reprobabile. In cazul contrar, in care familia va refuza, atunci
> exista 2 posibilitati: 1) cotidianul sa aduca acuze nefondate, chiar
> fara stirea si acordul familiei palestinianului, iar voi veti fi
> absolviti de orice raspundere, 2) familia sa nu doreasca dezgroparea
> cadavrului, din motive strict religioase, si atunci veti ramane in
> continuare suspectati.


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