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dorinP din Kanata (...@hotmail.com, IP: 65.92.5...)
2009-07-26 14:57
Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate

Afacerea cu traficul de organe nu este o noutate. Este sub lumina reflectoarelor astazi pentru simplu motiv ca unul din cei care isi asigura o bucata de piine alba pentru zile negre a fost prins cu mita in sac pe teritoriul US.

O istorie mai veche, din 2004

12 arrested over international kidney scam
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=ct20040116211225279O6252174&set_id=1&click_id=13&sf=

The Israeli government has been dragged into the international kidney transplant trafficking scandal, with claims that it financed the illegal operations done at St Augustine's Hospital in Durban through its own state health care schemes.

But while an alleged syndicate member has claimed to a Brazilian court that "the Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs" other evidence indicates that the Israeli government was possibly also a victim of the syndicate.

The syndicate recruited kidney donors from Brazil and paid them about $10 000 (about R72 200) to come to Durban to donate a kidney.

The organs were then transplanted into Israeli recipients, who apparently paid the syndicate up to $120 000 (about R864 000) for the flights, accommodation, operations and the organs.

In a guilty plea before a Durban magistrate, Robel admitted to paying $45 000 (about R325 000) for the kidney, which was donated by Brazilian Rogerio Bozzera da Silva, who had been paid $6 000 (about R43 320) for it.

He revealed that an insurance claim was to be instituted in Israel in connection with the operation.

Next in court was the Durban "co-ordinator" of the syndicate Roderick Kimberley. He also pleaded guilty and said he had been recruited by an Israeli called Ilan Perry to look after the donors and recipients while they were in Durban.

'I was only helping people in need'
This week in Brazil, retired Israeli army officer Geldaya Tauber Gady, under arrest in Brazil for belonging to the international trafficking ring, also mentioned "Ilan", an Israeli government official, as the man who had put him in touch with an intermediary in Brazil.

According to a Sapa report, he told the court: "The Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs for patients in its country and pays for all the transactions through four health plans. I never thought the government was financing anything illegal. I was only helping people in need."
[...]

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.108.254...)
2009-07-26 15:40
Re: Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate

http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Illegal-Kidney-Transplants-By-Japanese-Doctors-15578-1/



La 2009-07-26 14:57:39, dorinP a scris:

> Afacerea cu traficul de organe nu este o noutate. Este sub lumina
> reflectoarelor astazi pentru simplu motiv ca unul din cei care isi
> asigura o bucata de piine alba pentru zile negre a fost prins cu mita
> in sac pe teritoriul US.
>
> O istorie mai veche, din 2004
>
> 12 arrested over international kidney scam
> http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=ct20040116211225279O6252174&set_id=1&click_id=13&sf=
>
> The Israeli government has been dragged into the international kidney
> transplant trafficking scandal, with claims that it financed the
> illegal operations done at St Augustine's Hospital in Durban through
> its own state health care schemes.
>
> But while an alleged syndicate member has claimed to a Brazilian court
> that "the Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs" other
> evidence indicates that the Israeli government was possibly also a
> victim of the syndicate.
>
> The syndicate recruited kidney donors from Brazil and paid them about
> $10 000 (about R72 200) to come to Durban to donate a kidney.
>
> The organs were then transplanted into Israeli recipients, who
> apparently paid the syndicate up to $120 000 (about R864 000) for the
> flights, accommodation, operations and the organs.
>
> In a guilty plea before a Durban magistrate, Robel admitted to paying
> $45 000 (about R325 000) for the kidney, which was donated by
> Brazilian Rogerio Bozzera da Silva, who had been paid $6 000 (about
> R43 320) for it.
>
> He revealed that an insurance claim was to be instituted in Israel in
> connection with the operation.
>
> Next in court was the Durban "co-ordinator" of the syndicate Roderick
> Kimberley. He also pleaded guilty and said he had been recruited by
> an Israeli called Ilan Perry to look after the donors and recipients
> while they were in Durban.
>
> 'I was only helping people in need'
> This week in Brazil, retired Israeli army officer Geldaya Tauber Gady,
> under arrest in Brazil for belonging to the international trafficking
> ring, also mentioned "Ilan", an Israeli government official, as the
> man who had put him in touch with an intermediary in Brazil.
>
> According to a Sapa report, he told the court: "The Israeli government
> is aware of the traffic in organs for patients in its country and pays
> for all the transactions through four health plans. I never thought
> the government was financing anything illegal. I was only helping
> people in need."
> [...]
>
>
>

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 87.67.195...)
2009-07-26 16:12
EMI... prin "Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate", dorinP a vrut sa arate cum "toate pacatele lumesti"

La 2009-07-26 15:40:35, evreu mandru din israel a scris:

> http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Illegal-Kidney-Transplants-By-Japanese-Doctors-15578-1/
====================
EMI... , nu l'ai inteles pe dorinP !!! Subtil cum e, ca intotdeauna ...,

folosint inteleapta zicala ``Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate``,
dorinP a vrut sa demonstreze suparatorul obicei prin care ...
``TOATE`` dar absoult toate ``pacatele lumesti``,

indiferent de cine`s comise, ...
de japonezi, de nemti, de elvetieni, de italieni etc etc ...,
sint puse in kirka evreilor ...

Sint convinsa ca la asta s-a referit ... dorinP cind a zis ``Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate`` !!
si are dreptate !!

Smekerezada din Amintiri (...@yahoo.com, IP: 87.67.195...)
2009-07-26 16:28
reformulare ... spre a difuza orice echivoc ....

La 2009-07-26 16:12:44, Smekerezada a scris:

> EMI... , nu l'ai inteles pe dorinP !!! Subtil cum e, ca intotdeauna
> ...,

folosind inteleapta zicala ``Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate``,
dorinP a vrut sa demonstreze suparatorul obicei prin care ...
``TOATE`` dar absolut toate ``pacatele lumesti``,

chiar daca sint comise si de altii ...(si de japonezi, de nemti, de elvetieni, de italieni etc etc ) ... ele sint puse in EXCLUSIVITATE in kirka evreilor ...

Sint convinsa ca la asta s-a referit ... dorinP
cind a zis ``Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate`` !! ... si
Are dreptate !!

dorinP din Kanata (...@hotmail.com, IP: 65.92.5...)
2009-07-26 16:33
Re: EMI... prin "Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate", dorinP a vrut sa arate cum "toate pacatele lumesti"

Continua sa te manince dupa cite vad.
La 2009-07-26 16:12:44, Smekerezada a scris:

> La 2009-07-26 15:40:35, evreu mandru din israel a scris:
>
> > http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Illegal-Kidney-Transplants-By-Japanese-Doctors-15578-1/
> ====================
> EMI... , nu l'ai inteles pe dorinP !!! Subtil cum e, ca intotdeauna
> ...,
>
> folosint inteleapta zicala ``Toate-s vechi si noi sint toate``,
> dorinP a vrut sa demonstreze suparatorul obicei prin care ...
> ``TOATE`` dar absoult toate ``pacatele lumesti``,
>
> indiferent de cine`s comise, ...
> de japonezi, de nemti, de elvetieni, de italieni etc etc ...,
> sint puse in kirka evreilor ...
>
> Sint convinsa ca la asta s-a referit ... dorinP cind a zis ``Toate-s
> vechi si noi sint toate`` !!
> si are dreptate !!
>


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