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Roxana 2009-01-09 21:29:34





Seherezada 2009-01-09 21:03:35





Seherezada 2009-01-09 21:00:43	Re: Seherezada ...

La 2009-01-09 20:56:27, Arcturus a scris: > De ce nu te duci tu la cratitze, ca nu prea intelegi ce se intampla cu > calculatoarele. Acolo macar e totul simplu si nu te mai incurci. --------------- pai eu de cratitze vorbeam, am zis eu ceva de ``calculatoare`` ??



Arcturus 2009-01-09 20:56:27	Re: Seherezada ...

De ce nu te duci tu la cratitze, ca nu prea intelegi ce se intampla cu calculatoarele. Acolo macar e totul simplu si nu te mai incurci. La 2009-01-09 20:41:49, Seherezada a scris: > nu e simplu ... > > ArcTur a incurcat niste borcane si a publicat cu IP-ul lui ``calator`` > ..., > > ca de obicei are alt IP. > ceea ce ma face sa banuesc ca si el are vre`un part-time la Ziua ... > > na, ca am ajuns si eu paranoika. > > >



the 2009-01-09 20:51:07





Mos Grigore 2009-01-09 20:48:48	Re: evreu rus posteaza...

La 2009-01-09 20:32:05, antiohus a scris: > despre democratia din israel citand site-ul extremist > > http://www.victoriafinala.com/data/ar.php?id=11 > > rau ai ajuns... ======================================================== Adevarat ca s-a prostit.......................el ia depe site-urile arabe cind are la indemina superba revista KRAKADIL.............................



the 2009-01-09 20:45:57	Re: off topic





Seherezada 2009-01-09 20:43:04	Re: las ca vine sherezada ... Merci de introducere, Arctur ...

La 2009-01-09 20:40:20, Arcturus a scris: > Toti sunt prosti, numai voi sunteti destepti. Pana cand? > ------------------- pina te vei mai destepta si tu ...



Seherezada 2009-01-09 20:41:49

La 2009-01-09 20:36:00, the a scris: > Grigore, nu-mi gasesti si mie o dublura ??? > haaaaai, te rooooog ... :))) ------------------- nu e simplu ... ArcTur a incurcat niste borcane si a publicat cu IP-ul lui ``calator`` ..., ca de obicei are alt IP. ceea ce ma face sa banuesc ca si el are vre`un part-time la Ziua ... na, ca am ajuns si eu paranoika.



Arcturus 2009-01-09 20:40:20	Re: las ca vine sherezada ... Merci de introducere, Arctur ...

Asa, asa, nu te dezmintii ... ataca mesagerul cand nu iti convine mesajul. La fel au patit toti evreii care nu sunt de accord cu sionismul si crimele lui, au fost atacati. Toti sunt prosti, numai voi sunteti destepti. Pana cand? La 2009-01-09 20:09:58, Seherezada a scris: > La 2009-01-09 19:58:00, Arcturus a scris: > > > Numai concluziile sionistilor sunt verosimile ... de ce? Pentru ca > > sunt sionisti si au intotdeauna dreptate. > > ---------------- > Avi Shlaim face parte din ``New Historian`` group ... > niste tipi mediocri dar setosi de atentie, cautind cu orice pretz o > ``nisha`` de senzationalism, ... > care azi sustin una, ... miinea alta, daca nu chiar contrariul. > > De ex. tot din acelasi grup, foarte bun prieten cu Shlaim, este si > Benny Morris, ... care recent a schimbat macazul ... > pina atunci evRuSS dadea cu disperare citate din el, ... > acuma evRuSS e ofticat pe el si il socoteste tradator ... > > >



the 2009-01-09 20:36:00

La 2009-01-09 03:17:50, Mos Grigore a scris: > > 141.76.45.............................DE pentru amindoi > Grigore, nu-mi gasesti si mie o dublura ??? haaaaai, te rooooog ... :)))



antiohus 2009-01-09 20:32:05	evreu rus posteaza...

despre democratia din israel citand site-ul extremist http://www.victoriafinala.com/data/ar.php?id=11 rau ai ajuns...



the 2009-01-09 20:27:37	Re: Este uimitor ....





b.d. 2009-01-09 20:12:35	Re: nu e dacat propaganda, nu arata nimic video-ul asta

Nici cele date de Alwis si de mine nu arata ? Sau ai nevoie de ochelari speciali pt a vedea adevarul ? La 2009-01-09 19:28:21, Arcturus a scris: > > > La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE > > > >



Seherezada 2009-01-09 20:09:58	Re: las ca vine sherezada ... Merci de introducere, Arctur ...

La 2009-01-09 19:58:00, Arcturus a scris: > Numai concluziile sionistilor sunt verosimile ... de ce? Pentru ca > sunt sionisti si au intotdeauna dreptate. > ---------------- Avi Shlaim face parte din ``New Historian`` group ... niste tipi mediocri dar setosi de atentie, cautind cu orice pretz o ``nisha`` de senzationalism, ... care azi sustin una, ... miinea alta, daca nu chiar contrariul. De ex. tot din acelasi grup, foarte bun prieten cu Shlaim, este si Benny Morris, ... care recent a schimbat macazul ... pina atunci evRuSS dadea cu disperare citate din el, ... acuma evRuSS e ofticat pe el si il socoteste tradator ...



iobagul roman 2009-01-09 20:03:35	TUTOR-190===perfectspus,daca nu iubesti israHELL-ul si crimele lor,in curind vom fi vinatzi

si bombardatzi pretutindeni, salvarea e drumul spre russia sau china Tudor190 2009-01-09 05:32:45 12 reguli infailibile (traduse aproximativ din spanioleasca) 1 In Orientul Mijlociu intotdeauna arabi sint cei care ataca primii, si intotdeauna Israelul se apara. Asta se numeste " represalii " . 2 Nici arabii, nici palestinienii si nici libanezii nu au dreptul de a ucide civili. Asta se numeste " terorism " . 3 Israel are dreptul de a ucide civili. Asta se numeste " aparare legitima " . 4 Cind Israel ucide civili in masa, puterile occidentale cer ca acest lucru sa fie facut cu retinerere. Asta se numeste " reactie a comunitatii internationale " . 5 Nici palestinienii si nici libanezii nu au dreptul de a captura soldati israelieni din unitatile militare si din posturile de lupta. Asta se numeste " sechestrarea de persoane fara aparare " . 6 Israel are dreptul de a rapi in orice moment si oriunde libanezi si palestinieni citi vrea. Numarul lor este de aproximativ 10 de mii, din care 300 sint copii iar o mie sint femei. Nu este nevoie sa li se aduca nici o invinuire. Israelul are dreptul de a retine prizonierii cit vrea, chiar daca unii dintre acestia au fost chiar alesi in mod democratic de catre palestinieni. Asta se numeste " incarcerarea teroristilor " . 7 Cind se mentioneaza " Hezbollah " este obligatoriu sa se adauge sintagma: " organizatie sprijinita si finantata de catre Siria si Iran " . 8 Cind se mentioneaza " Israel " este strict interzis a se adauga: " stat sprijinit si finantat de catre Statele Unite ale Americii " . Asta ar putea da impresia ca este un conflict inegal si ca existenta Israelui nu este in pericol deloc. 9 In informatiile cu privire la Israel, trebuie intotdeauna sa se evite aparitia urmatoarele fraze: " Teritoriile Ocupate " , " Rezolutiile ONU " , " Drepturile omului " si " Conventia de la Geneva " . 10 Palestinienii, la fel ca si libanezii, sunt intotdeauna " lasii " ce se ascund in mijlocul populatiei civile care nu-i iubeste. Daca cumva dorm acasa cu familiile lor si asta va purta un nume: " lasitate " . Israelul are dreptul de a distruge cu bombe si rachete casele in care acestia dorm. Asta se numeste " bombardament cu precizie chirurgicala " . 11 Israelienii vorbesc mai bine decit arabii limbile engleza, franceza, portugheza sau spaniola. Prin urmare, acestia merita sa fie intervievati mai des si prin urmare sa aiba mai multe oportunitati decit arabii de a explica lumii intregi regulile de mai sus pentru redactarea buletinelor informative (regulile de la 1 la 10) . Asta se numeste " neutralitate jurnalistica " . 12 Toti cei care nu sunt de acord cu regulile de mai sus, si sa le intre bine in cap, sint considerati " teroristi anitsemiti foarte periculosi " .



Seherezada 2009-01-09 20:01:37	Re: calator .. SMK alias Shehe





Arcturus 2009-01-09 19:58:00	Re: las ca vine sherezada ... si iti spune ca nu-i bun, e tradator de evrei

Numai concluziile sionistilor sunt verosimile ... de ce? Pentru ca sunt sionisti si au intotdeauna dreptate. La 2009-01-09 19:55:01, Evreu-rus a scris: > Profesorul condamna aspru demonstratia de forta a Israelului in Gaza: > "Israel likes to portray itself as an island of democracy in a sea of > authoritarianism. Yet Israel has never in its entire history done > anything to promote democracy on the Arab side and has done a great > deal to undermine it. Israel has a long history of secret > collaboration with reactionary Arab regimes to suppress Palestinian > nationalism. Despite all the handicaps, the Palestinian people > succeeded in building the only genuine democracy in the Arab world > with the possible exception of Lebanon. In January 2006, free and > fair elections for the Legislative Council of the Palestinian > Authority brought to power a Hamas-led government. Israel, however, > refused to recognise the democratically elected government, claiming > that Hamas is purely and simply a terrorist organisation. > As always, mighty Israel claims to be the victim of Palestinian > aggression but the sheer asymmetry of power between the two sides > leaves little room for doubt as to who is the real victim. This is > indeed a conflict between David and Goliath but the Biblical image > has been inverted - a small and defenceless Palestinian David faces a > heavily armed, merciless and overbearing Israeli Goliath. The resort > to brute military force is accompanied, as always, by the shrill > rhetoric of victimhood and a farrago of self-pity overlaid with > self-righteousness. In Hebrew this is known as the syndrome of bokhim > ve-yorim, "crying and shooting". > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine >



Evreu-rus 2009-01-09 19:55:01	Opinia obiectiva a unui evreu, Avi Shlaim, profesor de relatii internationale la Oxford

Profesorul condamna aspru demonstratia de forta a Israelului in Gaza: "Israel likes to portray itself as an island of democracy in a sea of authoritarianism. Yet Israel has never in its entire history done anything to promote democracy on the Arab side and has done a great deal to undermine it. Israel has a long history of secret collaboration with reactionary Arab regimes to suppress Palestinian nationalism. Despite all the handicaps, the Palestinian people succeeded in building the only genuine democracy in the Arab world with the possible exception of Lebanon. In January 2006, free and fair elections for the Legislative Council of the Palestinian Authority brought to power a Hamas-led government. Israel, however, refused to recognise the democratically elected government, claiming that Hamas is purely and simply a terrorist organisation. As always, mighty Israel claims to be the victim of Palestinian aggression but the sheer asymmetry of power between the two sides leaves little room for doubt as to who is the real victim. This is indeed a conflict between David and Goliath but the Biblical image has been inverted - a small and defenceless Palestinian David faces a heavily armed, merciless and overbearing Israeli Goliath. The resort to brute military force is accompanied, as always, by the shrill rhetoric of victimhood and a farrago of self-pity overlaid with self-righteousness. In Hebrew this is known as the syndrome of bokhim ve-yorim, "crying and shooting". http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine



Arcturus 2009-01-09 19:44:08	Re: Ruskii Jidov, la astea de ce nu protestezi ?!

Pai si normal ca s-au strans toti pe acoperis. N-au nici un mod de a se apara, n-au nici un mod de a contracara decizia unora de a bombarda casele civile. Ati devenit niste bestii daca vedeti in bietii oameni niste agresori. Daca ar fi avut baterii anti-aeriene, fii sigur ca nu se adunau toti pe acoperisul casei. La 2009-01-09 15:49:52, alwis46 a scris: > > Vezi si ce zice palestinianul Abu Bilal ca a fost sunat de israelieni > sa plece cu toata familia din casa in cinci minute pentru ca vine > bomba peste casa lui si cum pe urma zice el cu gurita lui ca a chemat > prietenii si cunoscutii sa faca un scut uman cu civili pe acoperis : >



calator 2009-01-09 19:33:51	Re: calator .. SMK alias Shehe





Arcturus 2009-01-09 19:28:21	Re: nu e dacat propaganda, nu arata nimic video-ul asta

La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE >



alwis46 2009-01-09 19:16:49	Re: ce-ar fi sa faceti o pauza pentru 17 secunde ... si apoi sa continuati circul

Uite-le si p-astea, printre care si chestia aia cu copiii luati cu forta si pusa de mine acum cateva ore in acest grupaj : Children of Hamas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8 Sa te uti la ala micu' de 5 ani cum zice el ca vrea sa omoare evrei pentru ca sunt niste animale... Vezi si aici cum iau niste hamasi copii cu forta ca scuturi , pe al doilea chiar din fuga : Hamas using children as human shield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08GqXMr3YE&feature=related Asculta-l si pe barbosul asta cum zice el ca face scut din femei si copii contra bombardamentului israelian. Hamas admits it uses human shields http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs&feature=related Vezi si ce zice palestinianul Abu Bilalm ca a fost sunat de israelieni sa plece cu toata familia din casa in cinci minute pentru ca vine bomba peste casa lui si cum pe urma zice el cu gurita lui ca a chemat prietenii si cunoscutii sa faca un scut uman cu civili pe acoperis : Human Shields - Hamas in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE&feature=related La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE >



alwis46 2009-01-09 19:07:53	Re: Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva, Lui Zenn, part two

Special pentru tine, evidentiez din nou pasajul in care purtatorul de cuvant al HamAss declara ca ei nu sunt interesati de rezolutia cu incetarea focului. Nu mit eu ba, tu esti bou ca nu accepti ce a declarat idiotul ala palestinian : ""A Hamas spokesman said the Islamic militant group "is not interested" in the cease-fire because it was not consulted and the resolution did not meet its minimum demands."" Asta e partea a doua din articolul din care Jidovul Rus a copiat doar ce i-a convenit ba acesta. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the U.S. "fully supports" the Security Council resolution but abstained "to see the outcomes of the Egyptian mediation" with Israel and Hamas, also aimed at achieving a cease-fire. Osama Hamdan, a Hamas envoy to Lebanon, told the al-Arabiya satellite channel that the group "is not interested in it because it does not meet the demands of the movement." Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said the U.N. failed to consider the interests of the Palestinian people. "This resolution doesn't mean that the war is over," he told the Al-Jazeera satellite television network. "We call on the Palestinian fighters to mobilize and be ready to face the offensive, and we urge the Arab masses to carry on with their angry protests." Israel's government says any cease-fire must guarantee an end to rocket fire and arms smuggling into Gaza. During a six-month cease-fire that ended with the current operation, Hamas is thought to have used tunnels under the Egypt-Gaza border to smuggle in the medium-range rockets it is now using to hit deeper than ever inside Israel. Hamas has said it won't accept any agreement that does not include the full opening Gaza's blockaded border crossings. Israel is unlikely to agree to that demand, as it would allow Hamas to strengthen its hold on the territory which it violently seized in June 2007. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier was heading to the Middle East on Friday in support of international attempts to reach a lasting cease-fire in Gaza. Spain said its foreign minister, Miguel Angel Moratinos, also planned to visit the region beginning Monday. With Israeli troops now in control of many of the open areas used by militants to launch rockets, gunman have continued shooting from inside populated neighborhoods. Heavy clashes were reported in the late afternoon northeast of Gaza City as Israeli troops advanced under the cover of Apache helicopters firing machine guns. Fares Alwan, 49, said he was eating with his family when their house came under fire. "I took my kids and wife and started running away for cover," Alwan said. "We saw wounded people in the street while we were running." The conflict has left hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza increasingly desperate for food, water, fuel and medical assistance, and the situation was expected to worsen as humanitarian efforts fall victim to the fighting. One of the dead Thursday was a Ukrainian woman, the first foreigner to die in the fighting, according to Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moaiya Hassanain. He said the woman was married to a Palestinian doctor who trained in Ukraine and returned with her to Gaza. Her 2-year-old son was also killed in the tank shelling east of Gaza City, he said. Details are emerging of other incidents in which civilians were killed. A U.N. agency said Israeli troops evacuated Palestinian civilians to a house in Gaza City on Jan. 4, then shelled the building 24 hours later, killing 30 people. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs report was based on eyewitness testimony. It added details to an incident previously reported by The Associated Press and an Israeli human rights group. The U.N. agency said 110 people were in the house. The 30 people reported killed is a far higher figure than in other accounts. The Israeli military had no comment on the report Friday. Israeli police said a Palestinian man armed with an ax chased after people in the central Israeli town of Rehovot on Friday, slightly injuring at least one person. Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said police officers subdued the man and were questioning him. The West Bank saw its biggest protests so far, as thousands took to the streets following Friday prayers to express their anger at the Israeli offensive. Tens of thousands of people condemned Israel's offensive in protests in Alexandria, Egypt, the Jordanian capital of Amman and Baghdad. The Libyan state news agency reported that President Moammar Gadhafi has called on Arabs to allow volunteers to fight the Israelis in Gaza. The one-sentence call was posted on Libya's JANA news agency. AP writers Edith M. Lederer and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report. La 2009-01-09 17:15:04, Zenn a scris: > Iar minti! Nici nu-i de mirare. La hasbara cine te intrece, > asasinule!? > > > > La 2009-01-09 14:25:47, alwis46 a scris: > > > Hai lasa-ne, ai uitat insa sa zici ca si Hamas a respins rezolutia ONU > > de incetare a focului. >



alwis46 2009-01-09 19:01:54	Re: Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva,Lui Zen :part one

Nu ba boule, nu mint eu tu esti prost si nu accepti ce scrie in continuare exact in articolul ala din care Rusul Jidov a copiat cateva pasaje pe sarite, alea care i-au convenit. Pentru tine, ca sa vezi cat de bou esti, postez in doua parti respectivul articol, iar daca te uiti la sfarsit o sa vezi ca o contributie la el au avut-o si Natiunile Unite . Recunosti bai javra inceputul articolului, alea doua pasaje cu care incepe Jidovul Rus marea lui gaselnita puturoasa ? JERUSALEM – Israeli jets and helicopters bombarded Gaza Friday and Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets on at least two cities as both sides defied a U.N. call for an immediate cease-fire. One Israeli airstrike killed two Hamas militants and another unidentified man, while another flattened a five-story building in northern Gaza, killing at least seven people, including an infant, Hamas officials said. Israeli aircraft struck more than 30 targets before dawn, and there were constant explosions after first light. By afternoon, 22 Palestinians had been killed, pushing the death toll to 776 and in the two-week-old conflict, according to Gaza health officials who say at least half of those killed were civilians. Thirteen Israelis have also been killed. The United Nations kept its aid deliveries on hold Friday because of security concerns, but Palestinians who risked going to Gaza relief centers could still receive food and medicine. The World Food Program and UNICEF said they are not moving any supplies into or around Gaza. A U.N. Security Council resolution approved Thursday night called urgently for an immediate, durable and fully respected cease-fire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza. The U.S., Israel's closest ally and a veto-wielding member of the Security Council, abstained. While the call is tantamount to a demand on the parties, Israel's troops won't be required to pull out of Gaza until there is a durable cease-fire. The resolution calls on U.N. member states to intensify efforts to provide guarantees in Gaza to sustain a lasting truce, including prevention of illicit trafficking in arms and ammunition. In Israel's first official response to the resolution, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said the Hamas rockets fired at Israel Friday "only prove that the U.N.'s decision is not practical and will not be kept in practice by the Palestinian murder organizations." A Hamas spokesman said the Islamic militant group "is not interested" in the cease-fire because it was not consulted and the resolution did not meet its minimum demands. Israel launched its assault on Dec. 27 in an attempt to halt years of rocket fire from the Hamas-controlled territory. Despite the devastating offensive, Hamas has kept up rocket attacks on southern Israel. The rockets fired Friday hit in and around two of the largest southern cities, Beersheba and Ashkelon. Cities within rocket range of Gaza have largely been paralyzed since the fighting began. The Security Council action came hours after a U.N. agency suspended food deliveries to Gaza, and the Red Cross accused Israel of blocking medical assistance after forces fired on aid workers. It also followed concerns of a wider conflict after militants in Lebanon fired rockets into northern Israel early Thursday, though the border has been quiet since. In Geneva, the U.N.'s top human rights official called for an independent investigation of possible war crimes in Gaza and Israel. U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said the harm to civilians in Israel caused by Hamas rockets was unacceptable. But she said Israel must abide by international humanitarian law regardless of Hamas' actions. La 2009-01-09 17:15:04, Zenn a scris: > Iar minti! Nici nu-i de mirare. La hasbara cine te intrece, > asasinule!? > > > > La 2009-01-09 14:25:47, alwis46 a scris: > > > Hai lasa-ne, ai uitat insa sa zici ca si Hamas a respins rezolutia ONU > > de incetare a focului. >



b.d. 2009-01-09 18:55:11	Re: ce-ar fi sa faceti o pauza pentru 17 secunde ... si apoi sa continuati circul

La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE > Si inca o mica pauza, sa admirati modul in care Hamas are grija de educatia copiilor, (pusti, cutite, centuri explozibile), ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zgURMOZ6k&feature=related si,...rezultatul...(care in cazul de fatza s-a terminat cu bine)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPU4UN03t7E&feature=related



Seherezada 2009-01-09 18:53:49	nu glumesc. Uite-te ! si povesteste !!

La 2009-01-09 18:42:31, CALUGARU a scris: > La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE > > > >



CALUGARU 2009-01-09 18:42:31	Ce nu-ti convine ? Ca fac probaganda pro-israeliana ? N-ai ce sa le faci la evreii astia ! :)))

La 2009-01-09 18:40:34, Seherezada a scris: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE >



Seherezada 2009-01-09 18:40:34	ce-ar fi sa faceti o pauza pentru 17 secunde ... si apoi sa continuati circul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6lsinzwfzE



Seherezada 2009-01-09 18:33:23	calator .. SMK alias Shehe





Evreu-rus 2009-01-09 18:11:42	Despre "democratia" din Israel partea 2

LEGEA BASTARZILOR Bastarzii sunt odraslele casatoriilor mixte. Acelasi lucru este valabil si pentru cazurile cand un evreu ortodox(iudaic) s-a casatorit cu o crestina care in prealabil a trecut la iudaism si casatoria a fost efectuata de un rabin conservator, liberal sau reformist. In Israel sotia si copiii nu pot fi inmormantati langa sot si tata in cimitirul ortodox. Rabinatul din Israel tine o evidenta a tuturor casatoriilor mixte si a bastarzilor, intr-o asa-zisa Carte Neagra. Conform Enciclopediei talmudice, "orice femeie nascuta din parinti ne-evrei (goimi) , este considerata o prostituata, chiat daca inca nu a avut relatii sexuale. Distinsul jurist israelit Justice Haim protesteaza vehement impotriva legilor rasiste ale Curtii Supreme din Israel: "Amara ironie a sortii a facut ca aceleasi argumente biologice si rasiste folosite de nazisti , care au inflamat legislatia de la Nuremberg sa serveasca ca baza pentru definirea oficiala a iudaismului, care sta la temelia Israelului."(Joseph Badi, Fundamental Law of the State of Israel, New York, Twayne Publishers, 1960, pag.156) "ESTI TU SIGURA, BUNICA ?" Vai de acel evreu din Israel care descopera ca bunica lui, strabunica sau stra-strabunica lui nu a fost evreica sau a fost convertita la iudaism de un rabin gresit. Aceasta intrerupere in linia sa iudaica anuleaza casatoria in Israel, iar copiii sai vin trecuti in Cartea Neagra a bastarzilor si mai departe este descalificat ca donator de sange la Red Magen David (Crucea Rosie israelita) pentru ca le altereaza rasa. EVREI NAZI Raportul Natiunilor Unite despre tratamentul aplicat de catre evrei palestinienilor cuprinde si declaratiile lui Dr. Israel Shahak, care a enumerat multe cazuri de persecutii cunoscute de el personal. El spune: "Eu nu sunt impotriva acestor lucruri numai ca o persoana umana, ci si ca evreu, si ca unul care este mandru ce este evreu, pentru ca eu nu pot pretinde drepturi umane pentru evrei in oricare parte a lumii ar fi ei, daca eu nu lupt pentru ca aceleasi drepturi sa fie acordate palestinienilor(...) Eu am aceasi datorie ca evreu traind in Israel, si o afirm, mai degraba mor decat sa devin un evreu nazi." VEDERE DIN INTERIOR Felicia Langer, o avocata din Israel scrie in Times din Londra: "Nu exista o cale legala de a te opune ocupatiei militare a teritoriilor arabe dupa razboiul din 1967 si cel din 1973. Demonstratiile pasnice, protestele, grevele, distribuirea de manifeste sunt pedepsite foarte grav. Pentru a da orice fel de ajutor unei persoane suspecte de a fi contra ocupatiei, cateodata numai pentru a-I da un pahar de apa unui tanar suspectat sau unui frate sau sora, curtile militare impun pedeapsa cu inchisoare. ELITA RASEI UMANE Conform celei afirmate de Dr. israel Shanak, "Evreii au reinviat o carte din secolul al 14 - lea, care este folosita ca un manual de educatie religioasa in scolile secundare. Cartea explica de ce goimii (ne-evreii) trebuie sa fie sclavii evreilor. Pentru ca evreii formeaza elita rasei umane si au fost in mod deosebiti facuti pentru a aduce omagii Creatorului. Pentru asta ei merita sa aiba sclavi si acesti trebuie sa fie dintre ne-evrei, pentru ca daca ar fi evrei ei nu ar putea sa-si dedice tot timpul lui Dumnezeu. Ne-evreii pot sa-I serveasca pe evrei dupa ce s-au lepadat de idolatria lor.



Evreu-rus 2009-01-09 18:10:59	Despre "democratia" din Israel

"Planul de a transforma Palestina araba intr-una evreiasca a distrus in total 385 de localitati din 475. In districtul Bethleem, de exemplu, toate satele au fost distruse, ramanand doar orasul Jaffa. Dupa 1948 toate satele din regiunea Ramleh au fost distruse. Moshe Dayan, fostul ministru al apararii, a recunoscut ca "Nu exista o singura localitate evreiasca in aceasta atra care sa nu fi fost construita pe ruinele uneia arabe." "Nu exista dreptate in aceasta tara. Nu exista nici libertate, nici democratie. Niciun scop nu poate justifica nedreptatea, nici chiar atunci cand scopul ar fi spre binele natiunii sau al statului. Daca iti construiesti siguranta in dauna dreptatii, nu exista acumulari de fonduri, oricat de mari ar fi ele, care sa garanteze acea siguranta si nici chiar o armata ca cea a romanilor nu o poate asigura" - din declaratiile episcopului de Galileea, Joseph Raya, adesea criticat pentru filo-semitismul sau, publicate in Times din Londra, 11 mai 1973. Curtea Suprema a Israelului recunoaste ca: "Declaratia de independenta a Israelului ( din 1948), care prevede ca se va stabili un regim democratic care sa asigure drepturile de baza ale individului, a fost facut in primul rand pentru a mijloci recunoasterea de catre celelalte natiuni a statului Israel." Si mai departe, un comentariu de Amos Elon : "Declaratia de independenta stipuleaza egalitate deplina pentru toti cetatenii fara deosebire de rasa, sex. Ea prescrie nu numai libertatea religioasa, dar chiar si cea a constintei. Aceasta parte a declaratiei nu este considerata ca fiind angajanta, este fara autoritate constitutionala si este menita doar sa exprime o viziune politica a poporului." DREPTUL LA CETATENIE In 1953 Knessetul a aprobat Legea Intoarcerii, care acorda dreptul de a se intoarce in Israel, tuturor evreilor din lume in baza acestei legi, in ce-I priveste pe palestinienii arabi legea prevede cu totul altceva. Pentru un arab palestinian sau oricare individ care nu este evreu, fara consideratie daca a fost nascut sau nu in Israel sau daca a trait acolo majoritatea timpului, pentru ca sa devina cetatean al Israelului trebuie sa dovedeasca : 1. a fost inregistrat ca rezident in Israel la 3 ianuarie 1952, in virtutea legii de inregistrare a populatiei. 2. Ca a fost rezident in Israel la 4 ianuarie 1952 3. Ca a fost I Israel sau pe teritoriile anexate pe urma de la data infiintarii statului Israel si pana la 4 ianuarie 1952 sau ca a intrat legal in Israel in acea perioada. Inarmat cu astfel de prevederi, Israelul refuza cetatenia palestinienilor care nu au fost atunci in Israel, chiar daca au fost in teritorii anexate ulterior. Din moment ce un mare numar de palestinieni nu au fost inregistrati in aceasta perioada fie din nestiinta, fie din neglijenta, fie din cauza haosului care a domnit atunci sau din lipsa de colaborare a autoritatilor militare, acestora li se refuza cetatenia. Urmasilor unuia care nu are cetatenia, nu I se acorda cetatenia israelita, cu toate ca este nascut in Israel, adica ramane fara cetatenie. Pentru ca noii nascuti ai acestor lipsiti de cetatenie sa poata obtine cetatenia, ei trebuie sa fi fost inregistrati intre a-18-a si a 21-a zi de nastere. Cum aceasta lege (menita numai sa sicaneze) nu este cunoscuta lumii, si ca atare foarte putini au facut uz de ea. Dar chiar daca un palestinian a obtinut cetateniaisraelita, el poate fi usor supus unor legi de confiscare a averii, care-l poate deposeda de teren si de locuinta. DREPTURILE FEMEII In Israel femeia este considerata drept proprietatea barbatului, iar in fata tribunalului ea are o pozitie inferioara fata de barbat. O femeie al carui barbat a disparut nu se mai poate marita si nici nu poate divorta daca sotul ei a innebunit sau devine insuportabil. Daca o femeie nu are copii si i-a murit sotul , ea trebuie sa se predea cumnatului ei care poate dispune de ea. Numai cu consimtamantul acestuia poate ea sa se marite din nou. Daca fratele e minor, trebuie sa astepte pana cand devine major sau sa obtina consimtamantul parintilor sai. De obicei parintii ii dau consimtamant daca ea le preda averea ce a mostenit-o de la sotul decedat.



Evreu-rus 2009-01-09 17:54:11	Acest stat malefic trebuie boicotat de intreaga suflare a lumii civilizate





dorinP 2009-01-09 17:20:25	Re: Un articol genial-Pacea este doar pentru masacru

La 2009-01-09 10:12:43, alwis46 a scris: > Ochiu' mare nenica, vezi ce zice copilul asta. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIdxF-GHWw&eurl=http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfLIdxF-GHWw > De asta ce zici? N-are nici o jena ca poarta o uniforma. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q36LIaxXYP0



Zenn 2009-01-09 17:18:20	Al Jazeera Journalist challenges the Israeli ceasefire lies

Al Jazeera's Shihab Rattansi displays the type of questioning journalism that is sadly lacking from CNN or BBC. After some honest discourse from Dennis Kucinich, five minutes into the video Rattansi corrects the lies of Israeli sympathiser Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY): via Phil and The Heathlander). You can watch Al Jazeera English online through a program called Livestation. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/172545-Al-Jazeera-Journalist-challenges-the-Israeli-ceasefire-lies



Zenn 2009-01-09 17:17:19	Where Lies Truth in the Land of Lies?

I receive news updates from the UN news wire. Yesterday a headline read "U.S. thwarts cease-fire endorsement ." A pretty damning headline indeed. With the wire information was links to two articles that supposedly published the press release. One was to an AP article at TheStar.com. The other was to a Reuters article The Globe and Mail. The UN press release posted at SmartBrief reads as follows: UN Wire \| 01/05/2009 While Arab, European and United Nations leaders have put their weight behind calls for a cease-fire in Gaza, the U.S. has blocked a Security Council statement to that effect. Globe and Mail (Toronto), The (01/03) Toronto Star, The (01/03) Following the links, the Reuters report at Globe and Mail is titled "U.S. thwarts Libya at UN." The slant of the article implies that Libya's proposal went too far and that the U.S. refusal was not really out of line with the rest of the Security Council. Clearly not what is implied by the UN Wire release. The AP report at The Star is titled "Arabs pressure UN on Gaza." Takes largely the same tack and spin as Reuters. Namely stating that the "Arab" countries were pushing the Security Council for a cease fire. It never even mentions that it is the U.S. that refused to vote for a cease fire. This is a clear example of the "invisible hand" influencing what actually comes to the public eye. It is clear from the UN Wire press release that all of the Security Council except the United States supported the cease fire proposal. In that statement, it does not frame it as "Arab" nations pushing and the Security Council refusing to be persuaded. Why then do two major news services (which are picked up by multiple major news papers as well as broadcast and cable news networks) totally reframe the events? Welcome to freedom of the press and an informed public. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/172553-Where-Lies-Truth-in-the-Land-of-Lies-



Zenn 2009-01-09 17:15:55	Best of the Web: CNN Retracts and Finally Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire

Rick Sanchez does the research and finds that Israel violated the terms of the ceasefire first by killing 6 Gazans on November 4. Shouldn't media outlets check the facts before running with a story? http://www.sott.net/articles/show/172372-CNN-Retracts-and-Finally-Confirms-Israel-Broke-Ceasefire



Zenn 2009-01-09 17:15:04	Re: Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva, De ce nu spui ba tot !?

Iar minti! Nici nu-i de mirare. La hasbara cine te intrece, asasinule!? La 2009-01-09 14:25:47, alwis46 a scris: > Hai lasa-ne, ai uitat insa sa zici ca si Hamas a respins rezolutia ONU > de incetare a focului.



Robin 2009-01-09 17:07:01	off topic





calator 2009-01-09 16:43:43	Re: ha ha ... ``Vad ca arCURUS s-a dat de trei ori...etc SMK alias Shehe





alwis46 2009-01-09 15:49:52	Ruskii Jidov, la astea de ce nu protestezi ?!

Hai ca-i nasoala de tot, ar trebui sa urli protestand ca strans de coite vazand cum fac astia scut uman din copii pe care-i rapesc de pe strada si cum afirma liderul ala HamAss ca a dat telefon sa i se faca un scut uman pe acoperis pentru ca fusese avertizat de israelieni sa polece cu familia in cinci minute din casa. Dar p-asta ai vazut-o ? Asta este educatia data de HamAss copiilor de gradinita ? Children of Hamas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8 Sa te uti la ala micu' de 5 ani cum zice el ca vrea sa omoare evrei pentru ca sunt niste animale... Vezi si aici cum iau niste HamAss-i copii cu forta ca scuturi , pe al doilea chiar din fuga : HamAss using children as human shield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08GqXMr3YE&feature=related Asculta-l si pe barbosul asta cum zice el ca face scut din femei si copii contra bombardamentului israelian. Hamas admits it uses human shields http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs&feature=related Vezi si ce zice palestinianul Abu Bilal ca a fost sunat de israelieni sa plece cu toata familia din casa in cinci minute pentru ca vine bomba peste casa lui si cum pe urma zice el cu gurita lui ca a chemat prietenii si cunoscutii sa faca un scut uman cu civili pe acoperis : Human Shields - Hamas in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE&feature=related Haide ba, sa te aud protestand !



alwis46 2009-01-09 15:17:06	Re: mosulica,hai sa fim seriosi.israelul colecteaza lunar dobinzi de trilioane de $$$

Hai lasa, si palestinienii traiesc din ajutoare numai ca israelienii mai si muncesc si produc sumedenie de chesti pe cand palestinienii se ocupa cu orice, chiar si cu datul cu bombardeaua numai cum munca nu. http://www.presa-zilei.ro/stire/2096/iran-ajutor.html Citeste nitel si vezi ca UE oferea ajutor anual de 600 milioane dolari palestinienilor. Daca impart banii astia la 1,5 milioane de palestineni ies cam 400 verzisori pe cap de palestinian numai de la UE. Nu iau in calcul alti bani, miliardele de dolari primite de la palestinienii care muncesc prin toata lumea si banii veniti de la alte tari. Ziceai ceva de 19 miliarde dolari primiti de evrei timp de opt ani de la americani. Anual, asta ar insemna cam 2,375 miliarde. Israelul are astazi cam 7,4 milioane locuitori. Daca impart cele peste doua miliarde de dolari la cei 7,4 milioane israelieni reiese ca pe cap de om revin 321 dolari. Pai parca nu prea stau bine israelienii in comparatie cu palestinienii mai ales ca ultimii nu prea dau cu sapa ci mai degraba cu bombardeaua iar evreii aia construiec orase, iriga desertul si-l fac ogor si gradini, adica muncesc nenica nu stau cu ochii-ncuru' caprei. La 2009-01-09 07:16:36, iobagul roman a scris: > voi trebuie sa lucratzii din greu pe linga guverne,presa si la > tragaci---usor usor o sa ridem carbonizatzi cu totzii,iar in final or > sa-tzi ramina conturile in paragina > > U.S. Weaponry Facilitates Killings In Gaza > Tags: ISRAEL > The devastating Israeli firepower, unleashed largely on Palestinian > civilians in Gaza during two weeks of fighting, is the product of > advanced U.S. military technology. > > The U.S. weapons systems used by the Israelis -- including F-16 > fighter planes, Apache helicopters, tactical missiles and a wide > array of munitions -- have been provided by Washington mostly as > outright military grants. > > The administration of President George W. Bush alone has provided over > 21 billion dollars in U.S. security assistance over the last eight > years, including 19 billion dollars in direct military aid as > freebies > >



alwis46 2009-01-09 14:38:04	Re: Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva, nu spui tot completare

Uite ba tot articolul, nu fragmentul ala de ni l-ai fluturat tu mandru nevoie mare : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians Special pentru tine, reiau un fragment, ala pe care n-ai vrut tu sa-l postezi pentru ca nu-ti convine si demonstreaza ca si HamAss respinge aceiasi rezolutie pe care a respins-o Israel : Israel and Hamas were not parties to the council vote and it is now up to them to stop the fighting. But a Hamas spokesman said the Islamic militant group "is not interested" in the cease-fire because it was not consulted and the resolution did not meet its minimum demands. De ce te obosesti ba sa mananci atata materie d-aia maro si urat mirositoare ? La 2009-01-09 14:25:47, alwis46 a scris: > Hai lasa-ne, ai uitat insa sa zici ca si Hamas a respins rezolutia ONU > de incetare a focului. > Bai acesta, tu crezi ca lumea asta e populata cu surzi si orbi si nu > se uita si ea la stiri pe cele posturi TV romanesti si straine, nu > este alfabetizata ca sa vii tu si sa bagi fitile d-astea de tot > cacatul ? > > UIte ba bulache manevrieru' cum e treaba, n-ai vazut ca la articolul > ala din care ai citat exista mentiunea "read full article" ? > Uite ce urmeaza dupa ce te-ai apucat sa golesti oala cu fecale, cu > atat mai mult cu cat exista scris negru pe alb pentru orbii ca tine, > in acelasi articol citat de tine, ca purtatorul de cuvant al Hamas a > zis ca Grupul militant islamic "nu este interesat" de incetarea > focului : > > Despite the devastating offensive, Hamas continued to bombard > residents of southern Israel. Rockets hit Friday morning across > southern Israel, including in and around Beersheba and Ashkelon, > which — like other cities within rocket range of Gaza — > have largely been paralyzed since the fighting began. > > The U.N. Security Council resolution was approved Thursday night by a > 14-0 vote, with the United States abstaining. The resolution > "stresses the urgency of and calls for an immediate, durable and > fully respected cease-fire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli > forces from Gaza." > > Israel and Hamas were not parties to the council vote and it is now up > to them to stop the fighting. But a Hamas spokesman said the Islamic > militant group "is not interested" in the cease-fire because it was > not consulted and the resolution did not meet its minimum demands. > > Hai, mars d-acilea ! > > La 2009-01-09 14:09:07, Evreu-rus a scris: > > > JERUSALEM – Israeli jets and helicopters bombarded Gaza Friday > > and Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets, as Israel's government > > said it will press forward with its offensive despite a U.N. > > resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire. > > > > One Israeli airstrike killed two Hamas militants and another > > unidentified man, while another flattened a five-story building in > > northern Gaza, killing at least seven people, including an infant, > > Hamas security officials said. By midday, 19 Palestinians had been > > killed. > > > > In all, Israeli aircraft struck more than 30 targets before dawn, and > > constant explosions continued after first light. Friday's deaths in > > Gaza pushed the Palestinian death toll to more than 760 in the > > two-week-old conflict, with at least half of them civilians, > > according to Gaza health officials. Thirteen Israelis have died. > > > > In Israel's first official response to the U.N. Security Council > > resolution, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said Israel "has > > never agreed to let an external body decide its right to protect the > > security of its citizens." > > > > The military "will continue acting to protect Israeli citizens and > > will carry out the missions it was given," the statement read. The > > rockets fell in Israel on Friday "only prove that the U.N.'s decision > > is not practical and will not be kept in practice by the Palestinian > > murder organizations." > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/s/1013217 > > > >



Smekerezada 2009-01-09 14:31:14	ha ha ... ``Vad ca arCURUS s-a dat de trei ori peste cap si a devenit ...calator, mai sa fie``

La 2009-01-09 03:17:50, Mos Grigore a scris: > 141.76.45.............................DE pentru amindoi > -------------------- s-ar putea sa fie asa, ... au ceva in comun ... chestia cu 2 luntrii ... politetze ca maska pentru aruncat phitile, insa unul e mai prost ca altul !! (citeste-o cum vrei, ... vorba geniala romaneasca cu 2 taishuri ...)



alwis46 2009-01-09 14:25:47	Re: Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva, De ce nu spui ba tot !?

Hai lasa-ne, ai uitat insa sa zici ca si Hamas a respins rezolutia ONU de incetare a focului. Bai acesta, tu crezi ca lumea asta e populata cu surzi si orbi si nu se uita si ea la stiri pe cele posturi TV romanesti si straine, nu este alfabetizata ca sa vii tu si sa bagi fitile d-astea de tot cacatul ? UIte ba bulache manevrieru' cum e treaba, n-ai vazut ca la articolul ala din care ai citat exista mentiunea "read full article" ? Uite ce urmeaza dupa ce te-ai apucat sa golesti oala cu fecale, cu atat mai mult cu cat exista scris negru pe alb pentru orbii ca tine, in acelasi articol citat de tine, ca purtatorul de cuvant al Hamas a zis ca Grupul militant islamic "nu este interesat" de incetarea focului : Despite the devastating offensive, Hamas continued to bombard residents of southern Israel. Rockets hit Friday morning across southern Israel, including in and around Beersheba and Ashkelon, which — like other cities within rocket range of Gaza — have largely been paralyzed since the fighting began. The U.N. Security Council resolution was approved Thursday night by a 14-0 vote, with the United States abstaining. The resolution "stresses the urgency of and calls for an immediate, durable and fully respected cease-fire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza." Israel and Hamas were not parties to the council vote and it is now up to them to stop the fighting. But a Hamas spokesman said the Islamic militant group "is not interested" in the cease-fire because it was not consulted and the resolution did not meet its minimum demands. Hai, mars d-acilea ! La 2009-01-09 14:09:07, Evreu-rus a scris: > JERUSALEM – Israeli jets and helicopters bombarded Gaza Friday > and Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets, as Israel's government > said it will press forward with its offensive despite a U.N. > resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire. > > One Israeli airstrike killed two Hamas militants and another > unidentified man, while another flattened a five-story building in > northern Gaza, killing at least seven people, including an infant, > Hamas security officials said. By midday, 19 Palestinians had been > killed. > > In all, Israeli aircraft struck more than 30 targets before dawn, and > constant explosions continued after first light. Friday's deaths in > Gaza pushed the Palestinian death toll to more than 760 in the > two-week-old conflict, with at least half of them civilians, > according to Gaza health officials. Thirteen Israelis have died. > > In Israel's first official response to the U.N. Security Council > resolution, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said Israel "has > never agreed to let an external body decide its right to protect the > security of its citizens." > > The military "will continue acting to protect Israeli citizens and > will carry out the missions it was given," the statement read. The > rockets fell in Israel on Friday "only prove that the U.N.'s decision > is not practical and will not be kept in practice by the Palestinian > murder organizations." > > http://www.yahoo.com/s/1013217 >



Evreu-rus 2009-01-09 14:09:07	Sfidare pe fata: Israelul respinge rezolutia ONU si continua ofensiva

JERUSALEM – Israeli jets and helicopters bombarded Gaza Friday and Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets, as Israel's government said it will press forward with its offensive despite a U.N. resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire. One Israeli airstrike killed two Hamas militants and another unidentified man, while another flattened a five-story building in northern Gaza, killing at least seven people, including an infant, Hamas security officials said. By midday, 19 Palestinians had been killed. In all, Israeli aircraft struck more than 30 targets before dawn, and constant explosions continued after first light. Friday's deaths in Gaza pushed the Palestinian death toll to more than 760 in the two-week-old conflict, with at least half of them civilians, according to Gaza health officials. Thirteen Israelis have died. In Israel's first official response to the U.N. Security Council resolution, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said Israel "has never agreed to let an external body decide its right to protect the security of its citizens." The military "will continue acting to protect Israeli citizens and will carry out the missions it was given," the statement read. The rockets fell in Israel on Friday "only prove that the U.N.'s decision is not practical and will not be kept in practice by the Palestinian murder organizations." http://www.yahoo.com/s/1013217



Hadrian Gaunescu 2009-01-09 12:57:26	Nu lua in seama pe asa zisul Zenn, e un minor propagandist

La 2009-01-09 10:04:11, alwis46 a scris: > Pai hai sa vedem cum vine treaba si cu bunul samaritean palestinian a > carui blandete si a carui omenie sunt deja de pomina. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoy_Operation > The Savoy Operation was an attack by members of the Palestine > Liberation Organization on the Savoy Hotel in Tel Aviv, Israel on 4 > and 5 March 1975. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre > The Munich massacre occurred during the 1972 Summer Olympics in > Munich, West Germany, when members of the Israeli Olympic team were > taken hostage and eventually murdered by Black September, a militant > group with ties to Yasser Arafat’s Fatah organization. > Trebuie mentionat ca in acest masacru a fost omorat un atlet israelian > de origine romaneasca abia emigrat in Israel, era aruncator - nu mai > retin exact-de disc, sulita sau greutate. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoy_Operation > The Savoy Operation was an attack by members of the Palestine > Liberation Organization on the Savoy Hotel in Tel Aviv, Israel on 4 > and 5 March 1975. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_massacre > The Avivim school bus massacre was a terrorist attack that took place > in Israel on May 8, 1970 near Moshav Avivim on the border with > Lebanon. Palestinian gunmen from the Democratic Front for the > Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) attacked the town's school bus, > killing twelve people, mostly children. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27alot_massacre > The Ma'alot massacre[1] was an attack by Palestinian militants on May > 15, 1974 in Ma'alot, Israel, in which 22 Israeli high school > students, aged 14-16, from Safed were killed by members of the > Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.[2] Before reaching > the school, the militants shot and killed several other people.[3] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Yehuda_Street_Bombing > On February 22, 1948, as the conflict over the coming partition of > Palestine grew, three car bombs arranged by Arab irregulars exploded > on Ben Yehuda Street killing 52 Jewish civilians and leaving 123 > injured. > On Friday, July 4, 1975, a refrigerator that had five kilograms of > explosives packed into its sides exploded on Zion Square, a main > square leading to Ben Yehuda Street and to Jaffa Street. Fifteen > people were killed and 77 were injured. > > Acestea sunt doar cateva exemple din mentalitatea bunului samaritean > palestinian lista fiind atat de lunga incat precis n-ar putea apare > postarea din cazua faptului ca se depaseste spatiul alocat. > Dupa cum se vede, ceea ce se reproseaza de catre unul sau altul doar > unei anumite parti, se regaseste pregnant si in partea cealalta. > Si israelienii dar in aceiasi masura si palestinenii dau dovada de > aceiasi mentalitate iar daca numitul Zenn se refera la mentalitatea > de criminali a Askhenazilor, aceiasi nenorocita mentalitate criminala > ii mana si pe palestinieni. >



alwis46 2009-01-09 10:12:43	Re: Un articol genial-Pacea este doar pentru masacru

Ochiu' mare nenica, vezi ce zice copilul asta. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIdxF-GHWw&eurl=http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfLIdxF-GHWw La 2009-01-09 02:04:32, Evreu-rus a scris: > The army of Israel is powerful enough to destroy the entire Middle > East (and, in fact, also to destroy a significant part of the west). > The only problem is that, up until now, it has never managed to > succeed, even in the territory which would suit them to be in charge > of. The most powerful army of the world is held, still, by the > Palestinian resistance. How to understand this contradiction? > > Well, for starters, Israel never worked to build peace with the > Palestinians; never used other means which were not the means of > extermination, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust, to kill the native > population and residents in historic Palestine, from the foundation > of the State of Israel in May 1948. > > Israel expelled 750 thousand Palestinians, converted them into > refugees and then began to systematically prevent their return and > their children (today, also, already, the grandchildren of them), in > spite of UN Resolutions, at the same time they continued to destroy > cities and towns, or - what is the same thing - started to build > occupation colonies on the ruins of Palestinian cities and towns. > > Since 1967, Israel did everything that a state could do to make it > impossible for any political solution: it colonized territories, > occupied by illegal roads and refused to respect the boundaries > before the invasion of 1967, built an apartheid wall, and made life > impossible for the majority of Palestinians. Nothing, then, wou even > make them think about peace efforts. As before, the operation is > continuing towards systematic ethnic cleansing in the illegally > occupied Palestinian territories. > > Therefore, tp implicate peace - as it necessarily means - the end of > the mini-empire built by Israel, Israel will continue to do what is > in their power so that there is no peace, even if the peace it > offered on a tray, as the Saudi peace initiative, recently, for > example. Again, one does not understand: if the Israelis were only > waiting for such an offer, if they wanted some peace, but they > rejected it, practically without even considering it? > > So much of the time Israel rejects any and all possibility of peace, > that most Israelis are no longer able to see what rejecting peace has > become for Israel, a sort of second nature. > > But the most terrifying reason why no peace initiative ever had any > chance to advance has to do in fact, with us, with the west. > > Israel continues to be supported by Western democracies as a sort of > delegated power, like an advanced western stronghold, located at the > entrance of the Arab world, more vital, so more dependent on the > West, as regime-clients, like the Saudis and Iraq with Saddam until > 1990. > > A kind of 'incarnation' of the thesis of the "clash of civilizations" > of Huntington, Israel is, as ever, more exposed or more shrouded, a > bastion of the Jewish-Christian world against the Arabs and Islam. > > This was true for decades, but has never been more true than in the > last decade, when the New World Order came into terminal crisis, and > the "Doctrine of Shock" and "Shock and Awe" began to be heard from > several desert storm 'operations' in Asia and always against the > Islamists. > > Israel, not Iran, has nuclear weapons and is able to use them - and > repeatedly has threatened to use them. But speaking as if the threat > came from Iran, not Israel, those who propose the destruction of Iran > are the same merchants of tragedies that foisted to the USA and > England the high cost of the Iraq war. > > http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/07-01-2009/106903-peacemassacred-0 >



alwis46 2009-01-09 10:04:11	Vorbea unul de psihologia asasinului Askhenazi.

Pai hai sa vedem cum vine treaba si cu bunul samaritean palestinian a carui blandete si a carui omenie sunt deja de pomina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoy_Operation The Savoy Operation was an attack by members of the Palestine Liberation Organization on the Savoy Hotel in Tel Aviv, Israel on 4 and 5 March 1975. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre The Munich massacre occurred during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, West Germany, when members of the Israeli Olympic team were taken hostage and eventually murdered by Black September, a militant group with ties to Yasser Arafat’s Fatah organization. Trebuie mentionat ca in acest masacru a fost omorat un atlet israelian de origine romaneasca abia emigrat in Israel, era aruncator - nu mai retin exact-de disc, sulita sau greutate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoy_Operation The Savoy Operation was an attack by members of the Palestine Liberation Organization on the Savoy Hotel in Tel Aviv, Israel on 4 and 5 March 1975. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_massacre The Avivim school bus massacre was a terrorist attack that took place in Israel on May 8, 1970 near Moshav Avivim on the border with Lebanon. Palestinian gunmen from the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) attacked the town's school bus, killing twelve people, mostly children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27alot_massacre The Ma'alot massacre[1] was an attack by Palestinian militants on May 15, 1974 in Ma'alot, Israel, in which 22 Israeli high school students, aged 14-16, from Safed were killed by members of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.[2] Before reaching the school, the militants shot and killed several other people.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Yehuda_Street_Bombing On February 22, 1948, as the conflict over the coming partition of Palestine grew, three car bombs arranged by Arab irregulars exploded on Ben Yehuda Street killing 52 Jewish civilians and leaving 123 injured. On Friday, July 4, 1975, a refrigerator that had five kilograms of explosives packed into its sides exploded on Zion Square, a main square leading to Ben Yehuda Street and to Jaffa Street. Fifteen people were killed and 77 were injured. Acestea sunt doar cateva exemple din mentalitatea bunului samaritean palestinian lista fiind atat de lunga incat precis n-ar putea apare postarea din cazua faptului ca se depaseste spatiul alocat. Dupa cum se vede, ceea ce se reproseaza de catre unul sau altul doar unei anumite parti, se regaseste pregnant si in partea cealalta. Si israelienii dar in aceiasi masura si palestinenii dau dovada de aceiasi mentalitate iar daca numitul Zenn se refera la mentalitatea de criminali a Askhenazilor, aceiasi nenorocita mentalitate criminala ii mana si pe palestinieni.



evreu normal 2009-01-09 09:08:53	Un articol care merita aprecierea-o realitate incontestabila

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