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Ciufulici
2006-09-21 01:06:37

US-DRACULA ~~~ George 666 BeelzeBush ingroapa America

US-DRACULA ~~~ George 666 BeelzeBush ingroapa America

Nu are nici un program politic, nici o solutie de pace.
Poarta cu incapatanare un razboi general si fara sfarsit
si care vizeaza pe oricine.
A distrus complet 2 tari - Afganistanul si Irakul (fosti aliati US)
si a prelungit cu o luna bombardamentul Libanului.
Regimul lui militar e bazat pe tortura, crime impotriva umanitatii,
cetatenia americana si libertatile cetatenesti incalcate grorosolan,
si incalcarea conventiilor internationale
A stricat iremediabil climatul international si a facut din amenintarea
cu forta si teroare moneda curenta.
Si-a indepartat toate tarile nealiniare si a pictat America ca fiind un
monstru. Nu are nici o credibilitate pe plan international.
Fara credibilitate pe plan intern, multi americani il numesc Anticristul.
Incepe sa fie numit Dracul in forumuri internationale.

Morti in conflictele generate de "politica" lui:
http://icasualties.org/oif/
http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

BALAMOHAN RAJARATNAM
2006-09-21 01:44:49

Bush, Ahmadinejad clash over nuclear rights. By Paul Taylor

Ar fi bine sa se faca o traducere corecta fara opiniile personale expuse de ziaristi si cioparea textului.


UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - President Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clashed over Iran's nuclear ambitions in long-range rhetoric sparring before the United Nations on Tuesday.

Bush accused Iran's rulers of squandering their nation's wealth to fund terrorists and nuclear arms research but, with international support uncertain, he said he was willing to give diplomacy more time before resorting to sanctions.

In a speech to the U.N. General Assembly defending his muscular promotion of democracy in the Middle East, the American president assailed the leaders of Iran and Syria while appealing to their peoples over their heads.


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad hit back hours later from the same rostrum, accusing Washington and its allies of abusing the 15-nation U.N. Security Council to deny Iran the right to peaceful nuclear power that Western states had.

In a week of Muslim protests over Pope Benedict's criticism of their faith, Bush insisted the West was not hostile to Islam, contrary to "propaganda and conspiracy theories."

"Your rulers have chosen to deny you liberty and to use your nation's resources to fund terrorism and fuel extremism and pursue nuclear weapons," Bush told Iranians.

"Iran must abandon its nuclear weapons ambitions," Bush declared after telling reporters he would push for sanctions if Tehran continued to stall on U.N. demands to suspend uranium enrichment, which the West suspects is aimed at making a bomb.

But he stressed Washington would prefer to resolve the dispute diplomatically, giving the European Union a little more time to seek a formula for launching negotiations
Ahmadinejad was not in the chamber at the time, but when his turn came, he delivered an uncompromising tirade against U.S. global dominance, singling out the "illegal" invasion of Iraq and "blanket and unwarranted support" for Israel.

EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said on Monday it would be wrong to push for a sanctions resolution when the Europeans were making "real progress" in talks with Tehran. He said he would meet Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, in New York later this week.

'CROSSROADS FOR TERRORISM'

Ahmadinejad said Iran's atomic program was "transparent, peaceful and under the watchful eyes of IAEA inspectors," a reference to the U.N. nuclear watchdog.


But he gave no indication of any willingness to comply with the U.N. call to halt uranium enrichment.

Bush said Syria's leaders had made their country "a crossroads for terrorism" and told Syrians: "In your midst, Hamas and Hizbollah are working to destabilize the region, and your government is turning your country into a tool of Iran."

The U.S. president vigorously rebutted critics, including many opposition Democrats at home, who argue his drive for democracy has destabilized the Middle East, from Iraq to the Palestinian territories, empowered Islamists and spread chaos.

"This argument rests on a false assumption: that the Middle East was stable to begin with," Bush argued.

Yet he faced growing skepticism over his policies on Iran and Iraq, with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan warning on Monday that Iraq is in grave danger of civil war while France, Russia and China argue against a rush to sanctions

French President Jacques Chirac said he opposed setting any deadline for sanctions since dialogue should have priority.

After meeting Bush, he said they fully agreed on a sequence for launching negotiations with Iran, under which major powers would pledge not to seek sanctions for the duration of talks and Iran would suspend enrichment while negotiations lasted.

In contrast to Bush, Chirac told the assembly: "We do not aim to call regimes into question."

Bush and Ahmadinejad slept at adjacent hotels and addressed the annual Assembly session within hours of each other, but their paths did not cross.


The Iranian president, a strict Muslim, declined to attend a lunch for world leaders, including Bush, hosted by U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, ostensibly because wine was on the menu. Other Muslim leaders attended.

Ahmadinejad gave an interview to prime-time NBC television news, declaring: "I am against the policies chosen by the U.S. government to run the world. Because these policies are moving the world toward war."

Annan used his final address to the General Assembly before leaving office after 10 years in December to plead for Security Council action to end the Arab-Israeli conflict, saying efforts to solve all other Middle East crises would face resistance while the Palestinian question remained unresolved.

A tearful Annan won a prolonged standing ovation from the 192-member General Assembly after declaring: "Together we have pushed some big rocks to the top of the mountain, even if others have slipped from our grasp and rolled back."

Zen
2006-09-21 01:52:11

Deci, asasinii mondiali, au parasit sala. Foarte bine…

N-aveau ce cauta intre tari democratice si pasnice.



"De altfel, in timpul discursului lui Ahmadinejad, delegatia israeliana, condusa de ministrul de Externe, Tzipi Livni, parasise Adunarea in semn de protest. "Nu credem ca trebuie sa onoram acest om cu prezenta noastra", a explicat Danny Gillerman. Potrivit agentiilor internationale de presa, SUA s-au raliat acestui boicot."

smardoi
2006-09-21 01:57:01

asa i

cine se inalta se smereste, iar cine se smereste se inalta!

Mos Grigore
2006-09-21 02:31:42

Ce are in comun Chavez cu Casandra?

Amindoi stau cu Chomski in cuget si-n simtiri ba chiar si-n mina!

PS. Astazi Chavez si-a tinut monologu la UN tinind cartea lui Chomski in mina; ba chiar a si recomandat-o. Venind dela asa un fin intelectual fireste ca lumea o sa dea buluc dupa carte.

PPS. Sobrule, uite o ocazie sa cazi de intelectual!

Ciufulici
2006-09-21 03:43:57

Baza ramane tot ONU

ONU trebuie sa desfiinteze scaunele permanente in Consiliul de Securitate. Tarile trebuie sa voteze cu o pondere proportionala cu populatia lor. Si sa nu mai aud prostii ca "superputere"!

rosa luxemburg
2006-09-21 04:28:35

(1) - PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEPTEMBER 20, 2006

"Representatives of the governments of the world, good morning to all of you. First of all, I would like to invite you, very respectfully, to those who have not read this book, to read it. Noam Chomsky, one of the most prestigious American and world intellectuals, Noam Chomsky, and this is one of his most recent books, 'Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the United States.'" Holds up book, waves it in front of General Assembly.

"It's an excellent book to help us understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century, and what's happening now, and the greatest threat looming over our planet. The hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about this danger and we appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our heads. I had considered reading from this book, but, for the sake of time," (flips through the pages, which are numerous) "I will just leave it as a recommendation.

It reads easily, it is a very good book, I'm sure Madame President you are familiar with it. It appears in English, in Russian, in Arabic, in German. I think that the first people who should read this book are our brothers and sisters in the United States, because their threat is right in their own house. The devil is right at home. The devil, the devil himself, is right in the house.

"And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here." (crosses himself)

"And it smells of sulfur still today."

Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.

I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday's statement made by the president of the United States. As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.

An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."

As Chomsky says here, clearly and in depth, the American empire is doing all it can to consolidate its system of domination. And we cannot allow them to do that. We cannot allow world dictatorship to be consolidated.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The world parent's statement - cynical, hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy from the need they have to control everything.

They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that's their democratic model. It's the false democracy of elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons and bombs and firing weapons.

What a strange democracy. Aristotle might not recognize it or others who are at the root of democracy.

What type of democracy do you impose with marines and bombs?

The president of the United States, yesterday, said to us, right here, in this room, and I'm quoting, "Anywhere you look, you hear extremists telling you can escape from poverty and recover your dignity through violence, terror and martyrdom."

Wherever he looks, he sees extremists. And you, my brother - he looks at your color, and he says, oh, there's an extremist. Evo Morales, the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist to him.

The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up.

I have the feeling, dear world dictator, that you are going to live the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest of us are standing up, all those who are rising up against American imperialism, who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the sovereignty of nations.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Yes, you can call us extremists, but we are rising up against the empire, against the model of domination.

The president then - and this he said himself, he said: "I have come to speak directly to the populations in the Middle East, to tell them that my country wants peace."

That's true. If we walk in the streets of the Bronx, if we walk around New York, Washington, San Diego, in any city, San Antonio, San Francisco, and we ask individuals, the citizens of the United States, what does this country want? Does it want peace? They'll say yes.

But the government doesn't want peace. The government of the United States doesn't want peace. It wants to exploit its system of exploitation, of pillage, of hegemony through war.

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http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/102991

rosa luxemburg
2006-09-21 04:30:28

(2) - PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEPTEMBER 20, 2006

It wants peace. But what's happening in Iraq? What happened in Lebanon? In Palestine? What's happening? What's happened over the last 100 years in Latin America and in the world? And now threatening Venezuela - new threats against Venezuela, against Iran?

He spoke to the people of Lebanon. Many of you, he said, have seen how your homes and communities were caught in the crossfire. How cynical can you get? What a capacity to lie shamefacedly. The bombs in Beirut with millimetric precision?

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is crossfire? He's thinking of a western, when people would shoot from the hip and somebody would be caught in the crossfire.

This is imperialist, fascist, assassin, genocidal, the empire and Israel firing on the people of Palestine and Lebanon. That is what happened. And now we hear, "We're suffering because we see homes destroyed.'

The president of the United States came to talk to the peoples - to the peoples of the world. He came to say - I brought some documents with me, because this morning I was reading some statements, and I see that he talked to the people of Afghanistan, the people of Lebanon, the people of Iran. And he addressed all these peoples directly.

And you can wonder, just as the president of the United States addresses those peoples of the world, what would those peoples of the world tell him if they were given the floor? What would they have to say?

And I think I have some inkling of what the peoples of the south, the oppressed people think. They would say, "Yankee imperialist, go home." I think that is what those people would say if they were given the microphone and if they could speak with one voice to the American imperialists.

And that is why, Madam President, my colleagues, my friends, last year we came here to this same hall as we have been doing for the past eight years, and we said something that has now been confirmed - fully, fully confirmed.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't think anybody in this room could defend the system. Let's accept - let's be honest. The U.N. system, born after the Second World War, collapsed. It's worthless.

Oh, yes, it's good to bring us together once a year, see each other, make statements and prepare all kinds of long documents, and listen to good speeches, like Abel's (ph) yesterday, or President Mullah's (ph). Yes, it's good for that.

And there are a lot of speeches, and we've heard lots from the president of Sri Lanka, for instance, and the president of Chile.

But we, the assembly, have been turned into a merely deliberative organ. We have no power, no power to make any impact on the terrible situation in the world. And that is why Venezuela once again proposes, here, today, 20 September, that we re-establish the United Nations.

Last year, Madam, we made four modest proposals that we felt to be crucially important. We have to assume the responsibility our heads of state, our ambassadors, our representatives, and we have to discuss it.

The first is expansion, and Mullah (ph) talked about this yesterday right here. The Security Council, both as it has permanent and non-permanent categories, (inaudible) developing countries and LDCs must be given access as new permanent members. That's step one.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Second, effective methods to address and resolve world conflicts, transparent decisions.

Point three, the immediate suppression - and that is something everyone's calling for - of the anti-democratic mechanism known as the veto, the veto on decisions of the Security Council.

Let me give you a recent example. The immoral veto of the United States allowed the Israelis, with impunity, to destroy Lebanon. Right in front of all of us as we stood there watching, a resolution in the council was prevented.

Fourthly, we have to strengthen, as we've always said, the role and the powers of the secretary general of the United Nations.

Yesterday, the secretary general practically gave us his speech of farewell. And he recognized that over the last 10 years, things have just gotten more complicated; hunger, poverty, violence, human rights violations have just worsened. That is the tremendous consequence of the collapse of the United Nations system and American hegemonistic pretensions.

Madam, Venezuela a few years ago decided to wage this battle within the United Nations by recognizing the United Nations, as members of it that we are, and lending it our voice, our thinking.

Our voice is an independent voice to represent the dignity and the search for peace and the reformulation of the international system; to denounce persecution and aggression of hegemonistic forces on the planet.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is how Venezuela has presented itself. Bolivar's home has sought a nonpermanent seat on the Security Council.

Let's see. Well, there's been an open attack by the U.S. government, an immoral attack, to try and prevent Venezuela from being freely elected to a post in the Security Council.

The imperium is afraid of truth, is afraid of independent voices. It calls us extremists, but they are the extremists.

And I would like to thank all the countries that have kindly announced their support for Venezuela, even though the ballot is a secret one and there's no need to announce things.

But since the imperium has attacked, openly, they strengthened the convictions of many countries. And their support strengthens us.

Mercosur, as a bloc, has expressed its support, our brothers in Mercosur. Venezuela, with Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, is a full member of Mercosur.

And many other Latin American countries, CARICOM, Bolivia have expressed their support for Venezuela. The Arab League, the full Arab League has voiced its support. And I am immensely grateful to the Arab world, to our Arab brothers, our Caribbean brothers, the African Union. Almost all of Africa has expressed its support for Venezuela and countries such as Russia or China and many others.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I thank you all warmly on behalf of Venezuela, on behalf of our people, and on behalf of the truth, because Venezuela, with a seat on the Security Council, will be expressing not only Venezuela's thoughts, but it will also be the voice of all the peoples of the world, and we will defend dignity and truth.

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http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/102991

rosa luxemburg
2006-09-21 04:32:16

(3) - PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEPTEMBER 20, 2006

Over and above all of this, Madam President, I think there are reasons to be optimistic. A poet would have said "helplessly optimistic", because over and above the wars and the bombs and the aggressive and the preventive war and the destruction of entire peoples, one can see that a new era is dawning.

As Sylvia Rodriguez (ph) says, the era is giving birth to a heart. There are alternative ways of thinking. There are young people who think differently. And this has already been seen within the space of a mere decade. It was shown that the end of history was a totally false assumption, and the same was shown about Pax Americana and the establishment of the capitalist neo-liberal world. It has been shown, this system, to generate mere poverty. Who believes in it now?

What we now have to do is define the future of the world. Dawn is breaking out all over. You can see it in Africa and Europe and Latin America and Oceanea. I want to emphasize that optimistic vision.

We have to strengthen ourselves, our will to do battle, our awareness. We have to build a new and better world.

Venezuela joins that struggle, and that's why we are threatened. The U.S. has already planned, financed and set in motion a coup in Venezuela, and it continues to support coup attempts in Venezuela and elsewhere.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): President Michelle Bachelet reminded us just a moment ago of the horrendous assassination of the former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier.

And I would just add one thing: Those who perpetrated this crime are free. And that other event where an American citizen also died were American themselves. They were CIA killers, terrorists.

And we must recall in this room that in just a few days there will be another anniversary. Thirty years will have passed from this other horrendous terrorist attack on the Cuban plane, where 73 innocents died, a Cubana de Aviacion airliner.

And where is the biggest terrorist of this continent who took the responsibility for blowing up the plane? He spent a few years in jail in Venezuela. Thanks to CIA and then government officials, he was allowed to escape, and he lives here in this country, protected by the government.

And he was convicted. He has confessed to his crime. But the U.S. government has double standards. It protects terrorism when it wants to.

And this is to say that Venezuela is fully committed to combating terrorism and violence. And we are one of the people who are fighting for peace.

Luis Posada Carriles is the name of that terrorist who is protected here. And other tremendously corrupt people who escaped from Venezuela are also living here under protection: a group that bombed various embassies, that assassinated people during the coup. They kidnapped me and they were going to kill me, but I think God reached down and our people came out into the streets and the army was too, and so I'm here today.

But these people who led that coup are here today in this country protected by the American government. And I accuse the American government of protecting terrorists and of having a completely cynical discourse.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We mentioned Cuba. Yes, we were just there a few days ago. We just came from there happily.

And there you see another era born. The Summit of the 15, the Summit of the Nonaligned, adopted a historic resolution. This is the outcome document. Don't worry, I'm not going to read it.

But you have a whole set of resolutions here that were adopted after open debate in a transparent matter - more than 50 heads of state. Havana was the capital of the south for a few weeks, and we have now launched, once again, the group of the nonaligned with new momentum.

And if there is anything I could ask all of you here, my companions, my brothers and sisters, it is to please lend your good will to lend momentum to the Nonaligned Movement for the birth of the new era, to prevent hegemony and prevent further advances of imperialism.

And as you know, Fidel Castro is the president of the nonaligned for the next three years, and we can trust him to lead the charge very efficiently.

Unfortunately they thought, "Oh, Fidel was going to die". But they're going to be disappointed because he didn't. And he's not only alive, he's back in his green fatigues, and he's now presiding the nonaligned.

So, my dear colleagues, Madam President, a new, strong movement has been born, a movement of the south. We are men and women of the south.

With this document, with these ideas, with these criticisms, I'm now closing my file. I'm taking the book with me. And, don't forget, I'm recommending it very warmly and very humbly to all of you.

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We want ideas to save our planet, to save the planet from the imperialist threat. And hopefully in this very century, in not too long a time, we will see this, we will see this new era, and for our children and our grandchildren a world of peace based on the fundamental principles of the United Nations, but a renewed United Nations.

And maybe we have to change location. Maybe we have to put the United Nations somewhere else; maybe a city of the south. We've proposed Venezuela.

You know that my personal doctor had to stay in the plane. The chief of security had to be left in a locked plane. Neither of these gentlemen was allowed to arrive and attend the U.N. meeting. This is another abuse and another abuse of power on the part of the Devil. It smells of sulfur here, but God is with us and I embrace you all.

May God bless us all. Good day to you.

(APPLAUSE)

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http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/102991

fericire
2006-09-21 05:07:06

sobru,ciufulitul balamucam rahatam si alti islamisti

Mai astia de ce nu va curatati shalvarele in loc sa scrieti gogomanii.Ushcheala inapoi la camilele voastre, caci aduceti deshert pe unde calcati. Nu e nevoie sa fiu detectiv ca sa va numesc islamisti. Plec de la premisa ca nu ati scris niciodata de cum voi macelariti crestinii si le ardeti bisericile in tarile de unde ati venit. Scrieti numai de minciuni rasuflate de evrei,israel,americani si altele ca sa desviati adevarul. Bahra al culu duniya arab. Am trait si eu in tarile voastre si stiu cate parale faceti. F
Moderador, cred in ecuanimitate d-tale. F.

GiulestiWarrior
2006-09-21 05:23:51

Re: US-DRACULA ~~~ George 666 BeelzeBush ingroapa America


>"Nu are nici un program politic, nici o solutie de pace."
--Bush e presedinte de centru-dreapta, iar programul sau economic in SUA a redus somajul la 4,6%, iar pacea absoluta in lume nu a existat niciodata.
>"Poarta cu incapatanare un razboi general si fara sfarsit
si care vizeaza pe oricine."
--Vizeaza numai pe adversarii SUA, nu "oricine." Lupta contra teroristilor in Irak si Afghanistan e necesara.
>A distrus complet 2 tari - Afganistanul si Irakul (fosti aliati US)
si a prelungit cu o luna bombardamentul Libanului.
--"Fosti aliati ai SUA" tarile astea nu au fost in trecut. "Bombardamentul Libanului" nu a fost facut de SUA, ci de Israel. Contrar miturilor antisemite, SUA nu controleaza Israelul.
>"Regimul lui militar e bazat pe tortura, crime impotriva umanitatii,
cetatenia americana si libertatile cetatenesti incalcate grorosolan[sic],
si incalcarea conventiilor internationale"
--"Regimul lui" nu e militar, Bush fiind civil. Nu e vorba nici de tortura, nici de libertati cetatenesti "calcate grosolan." Ai exemple?
>"A stricat iremediabil climatul international si a facut din
amenintarea cu forta si teroare moneda curenta."
--O alta minciuna.
>"Si-a indepartat toate tarile nealiniare si a pictat America ca fiind
un monstru. Nu are nici o credibilitate pe plan international."
-- Tarile "nealiniare"[sic] nu au fost indepartate, ele nefiind niciodata in favoarea SUA.
>"Fara credibilitate pe plan intern, multi americani il numesc
>Anticristul."
--De fapt, in ultimele sondaje de opinie din SUA Bush coteaza in ascendenta. Citi americani ii spun lui... "Anticristul?" Ai statistice in aceasta privinta? Ce minciuna...
>"Incepe sa fie numit Dracul in forumuri internationale."
--Te bazezi asa mult pe cuvintele acelui infect caudillo de stanga, Hugo Chavez? Si pe web-sites "antiwar" (deci, pro-tiranie si antidemocratice)?
Mai "ciufulici," imi cam dai impresia ca ai absolvit academia "Stefan Gheorghiu."


>
>Morti in conflictele generate de "politica" lui:
>http://icasualties.org/oif/
>http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/
>

folclorist
2006-09-21 05:31:39

Re: Deci, asasinii mondiali, au parasit sala. Foarte bine…

La 2006-09-21 01:52:11, Zen a scris:

>N-aveau ce cauta intre tari democratice si pasnice.
>
Si care ar fi acelea pasnice ? Ca nu am auzit; am toba de la tractor sparta. haha !

laur
2006-09-21 05:57:21

Mos Grigore intelectual fin

"PS. Astazi Chavez si-a tinut monologu la UN tinind cartea lui Chomski in mina; ba chiar a si recomandat-o. Venind dela asa un fin intelectual fireste ca lumea o sa dea buluc dupa carte. "

Cartea , care carte ?

Probail aia cu gramaticele necontextuale ca doar aia sa fie singura care poate fi numita CARTEA ca deh fundamenteaza teoreitc abordarea automatelor finite din teoria computabilitatzii

Ca daca te referi la operele politice potzi sa zici biblioteca si nu CARTEA
iaca de aici

alea disponible free pe site-ul lui http://www.chomsky.info/books.htm sunt :

· Profit over People. 1999.
· Secrets, Lies and Democracy. 1994.
· Keeping the Rabble in Line. 1994.
· The Prosperous Few and the Restless Many. 1993.
· Year 501. 1993.
· What Uncle Sam Really Wants. 1992.
· Deterring Democracy. 1992.
· Necessary Illusions. 1989.
· "Human Rights" and American Foreign Policy. 1978.
· Counter-Revolutionary Violence. 1973.

cele partzial disponibile sunt :

Hegemony or Survival. 2003.
Media Control. 2002.
Understanding Power. 2002.
Excerpted from 9-11. 2001.
Propaganda and the Public Mind. 2001.
The Architecture of Language. 2000.
Rogue States. 2000.
Fateful Triangle. 1999.
The New Military Humanism. 1999.
The Common Good. 1998.
Powers and Prospects. 1996.
Class Warfare. 1995.
Chronicles of Dissent. 1992.
The Chomsky Reader. 1983.
Towards a New Cold War. 1982.
Radical Priorities. 1981.
The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism. 1979.
After the Cataclysm. 1979.
Language and Responsibility. 1977.
For Reasons of State. 1972.
Language and Mind. 1968.

Deci pe care a avut-o in mana parashutistul ?
Sau sa fi scos Chomsky una noua de care nici el nu are habar ?

Cat despre faptul ca l-a chemat pe numele sau ascuns pe dl "The Honorable Persident of the United States of America Mr..." si nu asa cu il stim cu totzii ca drept Yale Shmale ..... hai sa fim seriosi.

Homunculul premiat pentru cea mai cretina decrlaratzie publica George Walker Bush sa fie diavolul insasi ? Pai atunci declartzia lui "patriotica " ar trebui sa-i fie profesiune de credintza si nu-i cazul , zau asa . http://www.gandul.info/articol_15421/premiile_mondiale_ale_prostiei.html
"They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our Country and our people, and neither do we." (Nu inceteaza sa se gandeasca la noi metode de a ne distruge tara si concetatenii, si nici noi nu o facem).

Cat despre ce crede Chomsky despre el si viatza lui ca icon a contestarii infailibilitatzii Americii si luptator cu ideea pentru o viatza mai buna inclusiv pentru aborigenii din Timorul de Est , hmmmm da mai bine sa il lasam pe el sa spuna cun e viatza ca geniu cu gura sloboda prin America http://www.chomsky.info/books/dissent01.htm

"QUESTION: Edward Said, for example, has pointed out that there is much more pluralism in terms of the discussion, the debate, in Israel itself than inside the United States.

CHOMSKY: There's no question about that. For example, the editor of the Labor Party journal, the main newspaper of the Labor Party, has asked me to write regular columns. I won't do it because I'm concerned with things here, but that's totally inconceivable in the United States, you can't even imagine it, you can't even imagine an occasional op-ed. That's quite typical. Positions that I maintain, which are essentially in terms of the international consensus, they're not a majority position in Israel, but they're part of the political spectrum, they're respectable positions. Here it's considered outlandish.

QUESTION: In the time we have remaining, I'd like to ask you two questions. The first one is, in what ways, if any, has your work in linguistics and grammar informed your political analyses and perspectives?

CHOMSKY: I suspect very little. Maybe, I don't know, I'm probably not the person to ask, but I think working in a science is useful because you somehow learn, you get to understand what evidence and argument and rationality are and you come to be able to apply these to other domains where they're very much lacking and very much opposed, so there's probably some help in that respect. There's probably, at some very deep and abstract level, some sort of common core conception of human nature and the human drive for freedom and the right to be free of external coercion and control, that kind of picture animates my own social and political concerns. My own anarchist interests, which go way back to early childhood, and on the other hand, they enter here in a clear and relatively precise way into my work on language and thought and so on, but it's a pretty loose connection, not a kind of connection where you can deduce one connection from another or anything like that.

QUESTION: You have an international reputation for your work in linguistics and philosophy and obviously you weren't content with that, you wanted to go out into the social and political world--

CHOMSKY: Quite the contrary. It's one of the many examples that show that people often do things that they don't want to do because they have to. I made a very conscious decision about this. Actually, my political views haven't changed much since I was about 12 or 13. I've learned more, I suppose they're more sophisticated, but fundamentally they haven't changed. However, I was not an activist. I was, until the early 1960s, working in my own garden, basically, doing the kind of work I liked, intellectually exciting, rewarding, satisfying, you make progress. I would have been very happy to stick to it. It would have been, from a narrow personal point of view, much better for me in every imaginable respect. I remember I knew as soon as I got involved in political activism that there was going to be no end, the demands would increase forever, there would be unpleasant personal consequences -- and they are unpleasant. I mean there are less unpleasant things than being maced, for example, or spending a day in a Washington jail cell or being up for a five-year jail sentence or being subjected to the endless lies of the Anti-Defamation League and its friends, etc. There are more pleasant things. I didn't know in detail, but I knew it was going to be much less pleasant than just working in the fields where I felt I was good and I could make progress and so on. And I knew I had to cut back on things I really wanted to do and that I enjoyed doing, many things in personal life, and I knew personal life was going to contract enormously, something has to give, and in many ways there would be negative consequences, and I really thought about it pretty hard and I finally took the plunge, but not with any great joy, I must say. "

rosa luxemburg
2006-09-21 06:09:18

Presedintele Chavez in fata Adunarii Generale ONU - 20 septembrie 2006

"Reprezentanti ai guvernelor lumii, buna dimineata dumneavoastra tuturor! Mai intii de toate, as dori sa va invit, foarte respectuos, pe aceea dintre dumneavoastra care n-au citit inca aceasta carte, s-o citeasca. Noam Chomsky, unul dintre cei mai prestigiosi intelectuali ai Americii si ai lumii, Noam Chomsky, iar aceasta este una din cartile lui cele mai recente, 'Hegemonie sau supravietuire: srtategia imperialista a Statelor Unite'"(Ridica cartea, o flutura in fata Adunarii Generale).

"Este o excelenta carte care ne ajuta sa intelegem ce s-a intimplat in lume dealungul secolului 20, ce se intimpla acum si cea mai mare amenintare care planeaza deasupra planetei noastre. Pretentiile hegemonice ale imperiului American pun in pericol insasi supravietuirea speciei umane. Noi continuam sa va avertizam asupra acestui pericol si apelam la locuitorii Statelor Unite si ai lumii sa stopeze aceasta amenintare, care este ca o sabie atirnind deasupra capetelor noastre. Am planuit sa citesc fragmente din aceasta carte, dar pentru a economisi timpul, "(rasfoieste paginile, care sint numeroase) "ma voi limita doar la a va o recomanda.

Se citeste usor, este o carte foarte buna, sint sigur doamna presedinta, dumneavoastra o si stiti deja. A aparut in engleza, in rusa, in araba, in germana. Cred ca primii oameni care trebuie sa citeasca aceasta carte sint fratii si surorile noastre din Statele Unite, deoarece sursa amenintarii este chiar in propria lor casa. Deavolul e la el acasa. Deavolul, deavolul el insusi, se afla chiar in casa.

"Si deavolul a venit ieri aici. Ieri deavolul a venit aici." (isi face cruce)

"Si mai miroase a sulf inca si azi."

Ieri, doamnelor si domnilor, de la acest pupitru, presedintele Statelor Unite, gentlemenul la care ma refer ca fiind deavolul, a venit aici, vorbind de ca si cum el a fi proprietarul lumii. Adevarat. Ca proprietarul lumii.

Cred c-am putea chema un psihiatru sa analizeze declaratia de ieri facuta de presedintele Statelor Unite.


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Textul integral in engleza: http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/102991

roy
2006-09-21 06:11:15

Re: (1) - PRESIDENT CHAVEZ AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEPTEMBER 20, 2006

Chavez este exact figura care te poate entuziasma pe tine. Chavez o sa termine ca Nuriega.
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La 2006-09-21 04:28:35, rosa luxemburg a scris:

>"Representatives of the governments of the world, good morning to
>all of you. First of all, I would like to invite you, very
>respectfully, to those who have not read this book, to read it. Noam
>Chomsky, one of the most prestigious American and world
>intellectuals, Noam Chomsky, and this is one of his most recent
>books, 'Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the United
>States.'" Holds up book, waves it in front of General Assembly.
>
>
>"It's an excellent book to help us understand what has been
>happening in the world throughout the 20th century, and what's
>happening now, and the greatest threat looming over our planet. The
>hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the
>very survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about
>this danger and we appeal to the people of the United States and the
>world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
>heads. I had considered reading from this book, but, for the sake of
>time," (flips through the pages, which are numerous) "I
>will just leave it as a recommendation.
>
>It reads easily, it is a very good book, I'm sure Madame President you
>are familiar with it. It appears in English, in Russian, in Arabic, in
>German. I think that the first people who should read this book are
>our brothers and sisters in the United States, because their threat
>is right in their own house. The devil is right at home. The devil,
>the devil himself, is right in the house.
>
>"And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came
>here. Right here." (crosses himself)
>
>"And it smells of sulfur still today."
>
>Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the president of
>the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came
>here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the
>world.
>
>I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday's statement
>made by the president of the United States. As the spokesman of
>imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the
>current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the
>peoples of the world.
>
>An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even
>propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."
>
>As Chomsky says here, clearly and in depth, the American empire is
>doing all it can to consolidate its system of domination. And we
>cannot allow them to do that. We cannot allow world dictatorship to
>be consolidated.
>
>CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The world parent's statement - cynical,
>hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy from the need they have
>to control everything.
>
>They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that's their
>democratic model. It's the false democracy of elites, and, I would
>say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons and bombs
>and firing weapons.
>
>What a strange democracy. Aristotle might not recognize it or others
>who are at the root of democracy.
>
>What type of democracy do you impose with marines and bombs?
>
>The president of the United States, yesterday, said to us, right here,
>in this room, and I'm quoting, "Anywhere you look, you hear
>extremists telling you can escape from poverty and recover your
>dignity through violence, terror and martyrdom."
>
>Wherever he looks, he sees extremists. And you, my brother - he looks
>at your color, and he says, oh, there's an extremist. Evo Morales,
>the worthy president of Bolivia, looks like an extremist to him.
>
>The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are
>extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all
>over. And people are standing up.
>
>I have the feeling, dear world dictator, that you are going to live
>the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest of us are
>standing up, all those who are rising up against American
>imperialism, who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the
>sovereignty of nations.
>
>CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Yes, you can call us extremists, but we
>are rising up against the empire, against the model of domination.
>
>The president then - and this he said himself, he said: "I have
>come to speak directly to the populations in the Middle East, to tell
>them that my country wants peace."
>
>That's true. If we walk in the streets of the Bronx, if we walk around
>New York, Washington, San Diego, in any city, San Antonio, San
>Francisco, and we ask individuals, the citizens of the United States,
>what does this country want? Does it want peace? They'll say yes.
>
>But the government doesn't want peace. The government of the United
>States doesn't want peace. It wants to exploit its system of
>exploitation, of pillage, of hegemony through war.
>
>.............................................................
>http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/102991
>

akimote
2006-09-21 06:45:45

a caracterizat puterea de la Teheran drept "principalul obstacol" in calea unui viitor mai bun

Cine e el sa caracterizeze.... f'un diriginte... f'un sef de cenaclu ?
Toata lumea spune ca-i un bagabont periculos si mincinos ... ceea ce s-a si vazut pina acum...
De la CIA -ei ca el e un mincinos....mi se spune ca i se prepara deja o cusca sa-l puna linga Saddam...
E adevarat, ala n-are...dar nici nu musca ca asta !

california
2006-09-21 06:46:22

Re: Presedintele Chavez in fata Adunarii Generale ONU - 20 septembrie 2006

La 2006-09-21 06:09:18, rosa luxemburg a scris:

>"Si deavolul a venit ieri aici. Ieri deavolul a venit aici."
>(isi face cruce)
>
>"Si mai miroase a sulf inca si azi."
>

Deavolul are si speraclu!L-au gasit astronautii de la Atlantis, plutea in spatiu, ai vazut filmuletu'?

akimote
2006-09-21 06:49:46

Minunata descriere...

Chiar asa a spus Chavez ?
esti sigura ca nu era vorba de ingineru ?


La 2006-09-21 06:09:18, rosa luxemburg a scris:

>"Reprezentanti ai guvernelor lumii, buna dimineata dumneavoastra
>tuturor! Mai intii de toate, as dori sa va invit, foarte respectuos,
>pe aceea dintre dumneavoastra care n-au citit inca aceasta carte, s-o
>citeasca. Noam Chomsky, unul dintre cei mai prestigiosi intelectuali
>ai Americii si ai lumii, Noam Chomsky, iar aceasta este una din
>cartile lui cele mai recente, 'Hegemonie sau supravietuire: srtategia
>imperialista a Statelor Unite'"(Ridica cartea, o flutura in fata
>Adunarii Generale).
>
>"Este o excelenta carte care ne ajuta sa intelegem ce s-a
>intimplat in lume dealungul secolului 20, ce se intimpla acum si cea
>mai mare amenintare care planeaza deasupra planetei noastre.
>Pretentiile hegemonice ale imperiului American pun in pericol insasi
>supravietuirea speciei umane. Noi continuam sa va avertizam asupra
>acestui pericol si apelam la locuitorii Statelor Unite si ai lumii sa
>stopeze aceasta amenintare, care este ca o sabie atirnind deasupra
>capetelor noastre. Am planuit sa citesc fragmente din aceasta carte,
>dar pentru a economisi timpul, "(rasfoieste paginile, care sint
>numeroase) "ma voi limita doar la a va o recomanda.
>
>Se citeste usor, este o carte foarte buna, sint sigur doamna
>presedinta, dumneavoastra o si stiti deja. A aparut in engleza, in
>rusa, in araba, in germana. Cred ca primii oameni care trebuie sa
>citeasca aceasta carte sint fratii si surorile noastre din Statele
>Unite, deoarece sursa amenintarii este chiar in propria lor casa.
>Deavolul e la el acasa. Deavolul, deavolul el insusi, se afla chiar
>in casa.
>
>"Si deavolul a venit ieri aici. Ieri deavolul a venit aici."
>(isi face cruce)
>
>"Si mai miroase a sulf inca si azi."
>
>Ieri, doamnelor si domnilor, de la acest pupitru, presedintele
>Statelor Unite, gentlemenul la care ma refer ca fiind deavolul, a
>venit aici, vorbind de ca si cum el a fi proprietarul lumii.
>Adevarat. Ca proprietarul lumii.
>
>Cred c-am putea chema un psihiatru sa analizeze declaratia de ieri
>facuta de presedintele Statelor Unite.
>
>
>...............................................................................................
>Textul integral in engleza:
>http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/102991
>

moroianu
2006-09-21 08:01:30

D-lor Dan Toader, Roy & Co: Israelul a criticat USA pt ca a permis prezenta lui Ahmadinejad la Adunarea Generala ONU...


Voi de ce nu criticati guvernele israelian si american pentru ca u permis prezenta ministrului de externe si respectiv presedintelui la dezbaterile unei organizatii pe care nu pierdeti nici o ocazie de a o declara falimentara, si careia cei doi nici macar nu s-au achitat de datoria morala de a-i cere grabnica dizolvare?...

De ce aplicati metoda dublelor standarde?

evreu mandru din israel
2006-09-21 09:17:31

Re: Pe dracu pluralism...

"Haaretz" o sa publice fiecare articol a lui Chomsky sau comentariile cititorilor pro arabi care cer desfiintarea statului Israel, dar 80% din mesajele mele sunt cenzurate.

La 2006-09-21 05:57:21, laur a scris:

>"QUESTION: Edward Said, for example, has pointed out that there
>is much more pluralism in terms of the discussion, the debate, in
>Israel itself than inside the United States.
>
>CHOMSKY: There's no question about that. For example, the editor of
>the Labor Party journal, the main newspaper of the Labor Party, has
>asked me to write regular columns. I won't do it because I'm
>concerned with things here, but that's totally inconceivable in the
>United States, you can't even imagine it, you can't even imagine an
>occasional op-ed. That's quite typical. Positions that I maintain,
>which are essentially in terms of the international consensus,
>they're not a majority position in Israel, but they're part of the
>political spectrum, they're respectable positions. Here it's
>considered outlandish.
>

achile
2006-09-21 12:57:28

State cu drept de vorba si vot in UN

Probabil ca si Yemenul are dreptul de a-l acuza pe Bush ca este Satana.

http://www.cotidianul.ro/index.php?id=7096&art=17892&cHash=f4c98d409a

Giculica zbanghiul-turbat
2006-09-21 13:10:19

Io stiu ca Israielul si SUA sint cei mai buni pretini din lume!, nu baa? Oari da ce?

Oari da ce bre?

Pinkie
2006-09-21 13:34:22

Re: Felicitari !



Esti aproape singura minte limpede pe aici,
printre putinii care AU INTELES.
Da, cred ca Bush e Anticristul,

http://www.patriarhia.ro/Invatatura%20Ortodoxa/Biblia/NT/apocalipsa.html

Cind vad ce scriu unii colegi de-ai d-tale,
mi-e rusine ca am acelasi pasaport cu ei ... :-((

Mos Grigore
2006-09-21 15:01:57

Akimote, pariez c-ai adormit instantaneu, azi noapte, dupa atita compunere!

La 2006-09-21 06:45:45, akimote a scris:

>Cine e el sa caracterizeze.... f'un diriginte... f'un sef de cenaclu
>?
>Toata lumea spune ca-i un bagabont periculos si mincinos ... ceea
>ce s-a si vazut pina acum...
>De la CIA -ei ca el e un mincinos....mi se spune ca i se prepara deja
>o cusca sa-l puna linga Saddam...
>E adevarat, ala n-are...dar nici nu musca ca asta !
===============================================

PS. Ai grije de tine nu te mai sfortza atita!

Giuseppe Cocos
2006-09-21 15:18:48

Amerlocii si Dumnezeu

sunt foarte suparati ca alesul lor a fost comparat cu diavolul .....inca mai miroase a pucioasa la ONU ....YUCK !

dan toader
2006-09-21 15:58:21

Re: D-lor Dan Toader, Roy & Co: Israelul a criticat USA pt ca a permis prezenta lui Ahmadinejad la Adunarea Generala ONU...

La 2006-09-21 08:01:30, moroianu a scris:

>
> Voi de ce nu criticati guvernele israelian si american pentru ca
>u permis prezenta ministrului de externe si respectiv presedintelui
>la dezbaterile unei organizatii pe care nu pierdeti nici o ocazie de
>a o declara falimentara, si careia cei doi nici macar nu s-au achitat
>de datoria morala de a-i cere grabnica dizolvare?...
>
> De ce aplicati metoda dublelor standarde?

Ce iti veni neica?

Mos Grigore
2006-09-21 16:40:33

Re: Mos Grigore intelectual fin

La 2006-09-21 05:57:21, laur a scris:

>"PS. Astazi Chavez si-a tinut monologu la UN tinind cartea lui
>Chomski in mina; ba chiar a si recomandat-o. Venind dela asa un fin
>intelectual fireste ca lumea o sa dea buluc dupa carte. "
>
>Cartea , care carte ?
>
>Probail aia cu gramaticele necontextuale ca doar aia sa fie singura
>care poate fi numita CARTEA ca deh fundamenteaza teoreitc abordarea
>automatelor finite din teoria computabilitatzii
>
>Ca daca te referi la operele politice potzi sa zici biblioteca si nu
>CARTEA
>iaca de aici
>
>alea disponible free pe site-ul lui http://www.chomsky.info/books.htm
>sunt :
>
>· Profit over People. 1999.
>· Secrets, Lies and Democracy. 1994.
>· Keeping the Rabble in Line. 1994.
>· The Prosperous Few and the Restless Many. 1993.
>· Year 501. 1993.
>· What Uncle Sam Really Wants. 1992.
>· Deterring Democracy. 1992.
>· Necessary Illusions. 1989.
>· "Human Rights" and American Foreign Policy.
>1978.
>· Counter-Revolutionary Violence. 1973.
>
>cele partzial disponibile sunt :
>
> Hegemony or Survival. 2003.
> Media Control. 2002.
> Understanding Power. 2002.
> Excerpted from 9-11. 2001.
> Propaganda and the Public Mind. 2001.
> The Architecture of Language. 2000.
> Rogue States. 2000.
>Fateful Triangle. 1999.
> The New Military Humanism. 1999.
> The Common Good. 1998.
>Powers and Prospects. 1996.
>Class Warfare. 1995.
>Chronicles of Dissent. 1992.
>The Chomsky Reader. 1983.
>Towards a New Cold War. 1982.
>Radical Priorities. 1981.
>The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism. 1979.
>After the Cataclysm. 1979.
>Language and Responsibility. 1977.
>For Reasons of State. 1972.
>Language and Mind. 1968.
>
>Deci pe care a avut-o in mana parashutistul ?
>Sau sa fi scos Chomsky una noua de care nici el nu are habar ?
>
>Cat despre faptul ca l-a chemat pe numele sau ascuns pe dl "The
>Honorable Persident of the United States of America Mr..." si
>nu asa cu il stim cu totzii ca drept Yale Shmale ..... hai sa fim
>seriosi.
>
>Homunculul premiat pentru cea mai cretina decrlaratzie publica George
>Walker Bush sa fie diavolul insasi ? Pai atunci declartzia lui
>"patriotica " ar trebui sa-i fie profesiune de credintza
>si nu-i cazul , zau asa .
>http://www.gandul.info/articol_15421/premiile_mondiale_ale_prostiei.html
>"They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our Country and our
>people, and neither do we." (Nu inceteaza sa se gandeasca la noi
>metode de a ne distruge tara si concetatenii, si nici noi nu o
>facem).
>
>Cat despre ce crede Chomsky despre el si viatza lui ca icon a
>contestarii infailibilitatzii Americii si luptator cu ideea pentru o
>viatza mai buna inclusiv pentru aborigenii din Timorul de Est ,
>hmmmm da mai bine sa il lasam pe el sa spuna cun e viatza ca geniu cu
>gura sloboda prin America http://www.chomsky.info/books/dissent01.htm
>
>"QUESTION: Edward Said, for example, has pointed out that there
>is much more pluralism in terms of the discussion, the debate, in
>Israel itself than inside the United States.
>
>CHOMSKY: There's no question about that. For example, the editor of
>the Labor Party journal, the main newspaper of the Labor Party, has
>asked me to write regular columns. I won't do it because I'm
>concerned with things here, but that's totally inconceivable in the
>United States, you can't even imagine it, you can't even imagine an
>occasional op-ed. That's quite typical. Positions that I maintain,
>which are essentially in terms of the international consensus,
>they're not a majority position in Israel, but they're part of the
>political spectrum, they're respectable positions. Here it's
>considered outlandish.
>
>QUESTION: In the time we have remaining, I'd like to ask you two
>questions. The first one is, in what ways, if any, has your work in
>linguistics and grammar informed your political analyses and
>perspectives?
>
>CHOMSKY: I suspect very little. Maybe, I don't know, I'm probably not
>the person to ask, but I think working in a science is useful because
>you somehow learn, you get to understand what evidence and argument
>and rationality are and you come to be able to apply these to other
>domains where they're very much lacking and very much opposed, so
>there's probably some help in that respect. There's probably, at some
>very deep and abstract level, some sort of common core conception of
>human nature and the human drive for freedom and the right to be free
>of external coercion and control, that kind of picture animates my own
>social and political concerns. My own anarchist interests, which go
>way back to early childhood, and on the other hand, they enter here
>in a clear and relatively precise way into my work on language and
>thought and so on, but it's a pretty loose connection, not a kind of
>connection where you can deduce one connection from another or
>anything like that.
>
>QUESTION: You have an international reputation for your work in
>linguistics and philosophy and obviously you weren't content with
>that, you wanted to go out into the social and political world--
>
>CHOMSKY: Quite the contrary. It's one of the many examples that show
>that people often do things that they don't want to do because they
>have to. I made a very conscious decision about this. Actually, my
>political views haven't changed much since I was about 12 or 13. I've
>learned more, I suppose they're more sophisticated, but fundamentally
>they haven't changed. However, I was not an activist. I was, until
>the early 1960s, working in my own garden, basically, doing the kind
>of work I liked, intellectually exciting, rewarding, satisfying, you
>make progress. I would have been very happy to stick to it. It would
>have been, from a narrow personal point of view, much better for me
>in every imaginable respect. I remember I knew as soon as I got
>involved in political activism that there was going to be no end, the
>demands would increase forever, there would be unpleasant personal
>consequences -- and they are unpleasant. I mean there are less
>unpleasant things than being maced, for example, or spending a day in
>a Washington jail cell or being up for a five-year jail sentence or
>being subjected to the endless lies of the Anti-Defamation League and
>its friends, etc. There are more pleasant things. I didn't know in
>detail, but I knew it was going to be much less pleasant than just
>working in the fields where I felt I was good and I could make
>progress and so on. And I knew I had to cut back on things I really
>wanted to do and that I enjoyed doing, many things in personal life,
>and I knew personal life was going to contract enormously, something
>has to give, and in many ways there would be negative consequences,
>and I really thought about it pretty hard and I finally took the
>plunge, but not with any great joy, I must say. "
======================================================

Pierdere de timp Mielule, cu tot pomelnicu' ala; sau ai vrut sa aratzi ce Dastept esti?

Mai bine ai sapa un pic in istoria individului asta ca sa vezi ce porc si fariseu e!

Ia incearca pentru inceput:

Do As I Say (Not As I Do) - Peter Schweizer

The Anti-Chomski Reader - Peter Collier, David Horowitz


PS. Desi banuaiesc ca esti un admirator al porcului ala, incearca sa pui pe Google ANTI-CHOMSKI si ai sa vezi cit de "iubit si admirat" e!


Mos Grigore
2006-09-21 16:47:39

Re: D-lor Dan Toader, Roy & Co: Israelul a criticat USA pt ca a permis prezenta lui Ahmadinejad la Adunarea Generala ONU...

La 2006-09-21 15:58:21, dan toader a scris:

>>>
>>>
>> >
>Ce iti veni neica?
=========================================

S-A INECAT CU GARGARA!

Mos Grigore
2006-09-21 17:01:55

Re: Felicitari !

La 2006-09-21 13:34:22, Pinkie a scris:

>
>>
>Cind vad ce scriu unii colegi de-ai d-tale,
>mi-e rusine ca am acelasi pasaport cu ei ... :-((
==========================================

Daca-i asa, DA-L INAPOI SI IA UNU' IRANIAN!

Oriana
2006-09-21 17:40:21

Ce are in comun Chavez cu Casandra? Papagalu'

La 2006-09-21 02:31:42, Mos Grigore a scris:

Care Chomsky, ala care merge in vizita pe la H'zbolani, de vroiau sa-l faca seih... ? Pe bune, am vazut si pozele, el cam dadea din c...ot, de jena.

http://www.lucianne.com/routine/images/09-21-06.jpg

> Amindoi stau cu Chomski in cuget si-n simtiri ba chiar si-n mina!

Robin
2006-09-21 17:45:29

Merci, Rozo

La 2006-09-21 04:30:28, rosa luxemburg a scris:

>Point three, the immediate suppression - and that is something
>everyone's calling for - of the anti-democratic mechanism known as
>the veto, the veto on decisions of the Security Council.


ca nu-l vazusem (discursul), si nici n-aveam timp sa umblu dupa el pe internet. Acum, dupa ce am vazut ce-a putut sa debiteze bufonul, ce poti sa mai zici? decit:

US (si celelalte citeva tari care mai au minte), GET OUT!!! NOW!!!

Lasati-i sa-si faca consiliile lor de securitate, sa se joace de-a democratia si de-a votarea, sa se dea cu koorul de pamint pina or da in boala lui Kanachi! ;-)

Leave the UN! Now!

roy
2006-09-21 17:47:43

Re: D-lor Dan Toader, Roy & Co: Israelul a criticat USA pt ca a permis prezenta lui Ahmadinejad la Adunarea Generala ONU...

Nu-s nici un fel de duble standarde.

Atata timp cat exista ONU si nu exista o alta organizatzie, America, Israelul si alte state din Vest trebuie sa participe la sesiunei, ca sa nu lase scena libera unor descreieratzi ca Ahmed si Chavez.

In momentul cand se va crea o noua organizatzie, atunci pa si pusi lui ONU.

De altfel, lucrurile se indreapta in directza asta. Statele "lumii a treia" au hotarat la Havana sa faca taraboi la ONU, asta o sa grabeasca lucrurile. Si discursurile porcesti ale lui Ahmed si Chavez au batut un cui in sicriul ONU-lui.

Vrei, nu vrei - ONU e pe duca. Uita-te ce se intampla la Darfur daca inca nu intzelegi.
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La 2006-09-21 08:01:30, moroianu a scris:

>
> Voi de ce nu criticati guvernele israelian si american pentru ca
>u permis prezenta ministrului de externe si respectiv presedintelui
>la dezbaterile unei organizatii pe care nu pierdeti nici o ocazie de
>a o declara falimentara, si careia cei doi nici macar nu s-au achitat
>de datoria morala de a-i cere grabnica dizolvare?...
>
> De ce aplicati metoda dublelor standarde?
>

Oriana
2006-09-21 18:03:21

chicken si satana

Inca mai miroase a creier ars...

La 2006-09-21 15:18:48, Giuseppe Cocos a scris:

> sunt foarte suparati ca alesul lor a fost comparat cu diavolul
> .....inca mai miroase a pucioasa la ONU ....YUCK !
>

Oriana
2006-09-21 18:06:25

roza Moscova

Pt, cultura ta generala...


Hani Sarofim Nasrala Issak, a soldier in the Egyptian army, was TORTURED and KILLED last week after REFUSING to CONVERT to Islam.

Hani' s family issued a statement about the "INCIDENT"...

http://www.freecopts.net/english/content/view/268/9

Attention !
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Viewer discretion advised when viweing the above link.
These photos are not to be seen by individuals under 18 years of age, nor by individuals suffering from heart diseases.


La 2006-09-21 04:32:16, rosa Moscova a scris:


Oriana
2006-09-21 18:12:13

mirriianule !

Ia mai studiaza, ca stai prost la capitol.

www.faithfreedom.org/comics/introduction.htm

La 2006-09-21 16:47:39, Mos Grigore a scris:

> La 2006-09-21 15:58:21, dan toader a scris:

> > Ce iti veni neica?
> =========================================
>
> S-A INECAT CU GARGARA!

roy
2006-09-21 18:14:35

Re: Dan

Eu il intzeleg pe dl Moroianu.

El s-a obisnuit cu ONU asta asa cum se obisnuiteste piciorul cu o pereche de papuci rablagitzi. Ies degetele pe afara, calci strambi in ei, ba chiar si talpa se deslipeste. Dar sant comozi!

Asa si el... E asa placut la ONU, sa-l vezi pe Chavez Ahmed... Ani de zile am fost obisnuitzi cu standardele inalte: Nichita pocnind cu pantoful in masa, canibalul Idi Amin, Arafat cu pistolul.... cocteilurile, coruptzia, risipa... Ce o sa se faca Moroianu fara ele?

Sper sa nu fiu deferit in justitzie pentru cele scrise aici. Deja unul m-a declarat criminal bun de trimis la Haga. Nu vreau sa am prea multe dosare in spate.
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La 2006-09-21 16:47:39, Mos Grigore a scris:

>La 2006-09-21 15:58:21, dan toader a scris:
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> >
>>Ce iti veni neica?
>=========================================
>
>S-A INECAT CU GARGARA!
>
>

briel
2006-09-21 18:48:38

Re: Re: Felicitari !

La 2006-09-21 13:34:22, Pinkie a scris:

>
>
> Esti aproape singura minte limpede pe aici,
> printre putinii care AU INTELES.
> Da, cred ca Bush e Anticristul,

Draga Pinkie, daca tot esti amatoare de profetii (fie vorba intre noi, alea ale
lui Nostradamus se descifreaza numai dupa ce evenimentu' a trecut si vorba
poetului - nici n-am gandit eu la ce ati citit voi), deci ziceam de profetii, ia
incearca si unele ortodoxe, "vazute" de oameni cu frica de Dumnezeu si care
au dovedit cu viata lor ce cred:
http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/readings/profetii/

E pe romaneste.

Aladin
2006-09-21 18:58:43

Umor involuntar suculent dar subtil.

TV-ul ( CNN, FOX etc. ) relateaza ca Chavez la numit pe Bush........diavol,
in continuare este mentionat ca la acea ora Bush era in zbor de la N.Y. la Washington.
Nu e la fel cu TV-ul Roman care 3 decenii in urma, anunta ca ,ministrul de externe Roman, tov. Cioara s-a intors de la Paris pe calea aerului.

alwis46
2006-09-21 19:23:19

Re: Baza ramane tot ONU

Mai Zburlici,

Dupa China si India care au fiecare peste un miliard de omenet, ia vezi talica a cata tara ca populatie e America asta cu cele 280 milioane de persoane care vietuiesc acolo....
Cauta bine si retine pozitia in clasamentul pe natiuni.....


La 2006-09-21 03:43:57, Ciufulici a scris:

> ONU trebuie sa desfiinteze scaunele permanente in Consiliul de
> Securitate. Tarile trebuie sa voteze cu o pondere proportionala cu
> populatia lor. Si sa nu mai aud prostii ca "superputere"!
>

roy
2006-09-21 20:00:48

Fratzanii din Golf mor de frica

Asta seara l-am vazut pe ministrul de externe al unuia din emirate care spunea ca toate statele din Golf sant ingrijorate de planul nuclear iranian chiar daca ar fi "in scop de pace".

Iar dupa el a aparut un ziarist tot de acolo care a spus lucrurilor pe sleau: ei stiu ca Iranul vrea bomba atomica si ca nu au de ce sa se teama de Israel ci de Iran.

Am mai scris ca Iranul va incepe cu emiratele din Golf, chiar inainte de a avea bomba. Emiratele vor fi soricelul de experientza al iranienilor.

Oriana
2006-09-21 20:08:31

Umor de trei parale, cabaret la ONU !

Mascarada ce-a facut-o Chavez, oaspete pe teritoriu american e de o mirlanie fara precedent. Erau doar maimutele lui care-l aplaudau la comanda pe dictator,
ce te distreaza pe trine, chiar nu vad.

Chavez' s Histrionics SHOCK Even America' s Critics
http://www.nysun.com/article/40129

Si du-te si vezi ziarele europene ce scriu despre badaran, a confundat un for international cu un cabaret, el care a pus mina pe putere cu o lovitura militara, ca in Thailanda, ciocu' mic fatza de peste cele 60 de mil. de americani ce l-au votat pe Bush, democratic, nu cu japca, MILITAR.

=======================

La 2006-09-21 18:58:43, Aladin a scris:

> TV-ul ( CNN, FOX etc. ) relateaza ca Chavez la numit pe
> Bush........diavol,

Ciufulici
2006-09-21 20:22:43

VETO

Veto, ce este "veto" intr-o democratie? O cheama pe Veta (forma imperativa) sa-i lustruiasca cizmele? Ca intr-o dictatura se zice simplu "nu"

Ciufulici
2006-09-21 20:47:37

DEMOCRATIA SE ADUCE CU PUSCA?

Democratia se impune cu pusca?
Raspuns: Nu, caci US Army nu poate sa prinda toti locuitorii, dar niste bombardamente prietenesti de salvare a popoarelor de sub jugul dictatorilor sunt mult mai eficiente si mai ales umanitate.
Supravietuitorii au alegerea sa treaca de bunavoie la democratia dictata sau sa fie declarati teroristi inca liberi.

Ciufulici
2006-09-21 20:54:42

Re: Fratzanii din Golf mor de frica

Pai daca nu intra in tratate de pace si cooperare cu Iranul si se tin departe si pe pozitii critice si dusmanoase, cum sa nu le fie!

Ciufulici
2006-09-21 21:01:03

Chavez nu este original, caci MULTI AMERICANI IL NUMESC DEJA PE BUSH ANTISHRIST

http://www.topplebush.com/photos703.shtml

http://www.bushisantichrist.com

http://www.antiwar.com

folclorist
2006-09-21 21:06:11

Chaves a facut mai mult decit toata campania republicanilor

La 2006-09-21 20:22:43, Ciufulici a scris:

>Veto, ce este "veto" intr-o democratie? O cheama pe Veta
>(forma imperativa) sa-i lustruiasca cizmele? Ca intr-o dictatura se
>zice simplu "nu"
>
>
Asa gura sparta e ca o mana cereasca pt republicani. Cred ca democratii dadeau cu bastile in televizor sa taca....
Cu cit vorbeste mai mult, cu atit mai bine ! Ca sint multi care asculta rar....

roy
2006-09-21 21:11:47

Re: VETO

Bla, bla, bla...

Nu mai ai ce zice si de plictiseala te urci pe peretzi?
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La 2006-09-21 20:22:43, Ciufulici a scris:

>Veto, ce este "veto" intr-o democratie? O cheama pe Veta
>(forma imperativa) sa-i lustruiasca cizmele? Ca intr-o dictatura se
>zice simplu "nu"
>
>

dan toader
2006-09-21 21:26:16

ma, da' io ce caut in discutia asta?

?



La 2006-09-21 18:14:35, roy a scris:

>Eu il intzeleg pe dl Moroianu.
>
>El s-a obisnuit cu ONU asta asa cum se obisnuiteste piciorul cu o
>pereche de papuci rablagitzi. Ies degetele pe afara, calci strambi
>in ei, ba chiar si talpa se deslipeste. Dar sant comozi!
>
>Asa si el... E asa placut la ONU, sa-l vezi pe Chavez Ahmed... Ani de
>zile am fost obisnuitzi cu standardele inalte: Nichita pocnind cu
>pantoful in masa, canibalul Idi Amin, Arafat cu pistolul....
>cocteilurile, coruptzia, risipa... Ce o sa se faca Moroianu fara
>ele?
>
>Sper sa nu fiu deferit in justitzie pentru cele scrise aici. Deja unul
>m-a declarat criminal bun de trimis la Haga. Nu vreau sa am prea multe
>dosare in spate.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>La 2006-09-21 16:47:39, Mos Grigore a scris:
>
>>La 2006-09-21 15:58:21, dan toader a scris:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>>Ce iti veni neica?
>>=========================================
>>
>>S-A INECAT CU GARGARA!
>>
>>
>
>

ivan naica
2006-09-21 22:02:03

Re: DEMOCRATIA SE ADUCE CU PUSCA?

La 2006-09-21 20:47:37, Ciufulici a scris:

>Democratia se impune cu pusca?
>Raspuns: Nu, caci US Army nu poate sa prinda toti locuitorii, dar
>niste bombardamente prietenesti de salvare a popoarelor de sub jugul
>dictatorilor sunt mult mai eficiente si mai ales umanitate.
>Supravietuitorii au alegerea sa treaca de bunavoie la democratia
>dictata sau sa fie declarati teroristi inca liberi.
>--------------------------------
aburici,asta e filozofie de bodega.
pot sa se dea toti dusmanii americii cu fundul de pamint
ca tot cum vrea america o sa fie

Oriana
2006-09-21 22:12:40

Merci, Rozo........Leave the UN! Now!


Da ce-s proshti, cum sa se lipseasca ei de mese luculliane si Moet &Chandon... girla, in barba celor care mor de sete, pt. ca nu au o PICATURA DE APA in Africa.
Cat costa un banchet, NUMAI, de-al Unu-iltate, ar ajunge sa salveze un sat african. Si au facut-o ???


La 2006-09-21 17:45:29, Robin a scris:

> La 2006-09-21 04:30:28, rosa luxemburg a scris:

> ca nu-l vazusem (discursul), si nici n-aveam timp sa umblu dupa el pe
> internet. Acum, dupa ce am vazut ce-a putut sa debiteze bufonul, ce
> poti sa mai zici? decit:
>
> US (si celelalte citeva tari care mai au minte), GET OUT!!! NOW!!!
>
> Lasati-i sa-si faca consiliile lor de securitate, sa se joace de-a
> democratia si de-a votarea, sa se dea cu koorul de pamint pina or da
> in boala lui Kanachi! ;-)
>
> Leave the UN! Now!
>
>


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